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Quran Claimed Present Torah, Gospels are Corrupted

Posted 05-25-2016 at 04:47 AM by Continuum


In the Quran, Allah claimed the original Torah, Gospels from Allah has been corrupted by believers over time.
As such the present Torah and Gospels are the corrupted versions and they should not be accepted as Islamic.


[B]I. Allah's Quran cannot be changed.[/B][INDENT]50:29. The sentence [word, l-qawlu الْقَوْلُ ق و ل ] that cometh from Me [Allah] cannot be changed, and I am in no wise a tyrant unto the slaves. [immutability] [nb: different trans for l-qawlu]

17:77. (Such was Our) method in the case of those whom We sent before thee (to mankind), and thou wilt not find for Our method aught of power to change. 17

18:27. And recite that which hath been revealed unto thee of the scripture of thy Lord. There is none who can change His words, and thou wilt find no refuge beside Him.

6:115. Perfected is the Word [Quran] of thy Lord in truth and justice. There is naught that can change His words [the Quran]. He [Allah] is the Hearer, the Knower. [immutability of Quran, its commands, threats and promises] [note v5:3, 6:114-5 v20:114]

33:62. That was the way of Allah in the case of those [proto Muslims] who passed away of old; thou wilt not find for the way of Allah aught of power to change. [from past decrees of Allah] [/INDENT]


[B]II. Where Jews and Christians Changed the Words of Allah[/B][INDENT]2:59. But those [Jews ] who did wrong changed the Word which had been told them for another saying, and We sent down upon the evil-doers wrath from Heaven for their evil doing. [re mentioned of 'Muhammad' in the Torah, note Songs of Solomon]

2:75. Have ye any hope that they [Jews] will be true to you when a party of them [Jews] used to listen to the Word of Allah, then used to change it, after they had understood it knowingly?

2:211. Ask of the Children of Israel [Jews] how many a clear revelation We gave them! He [the Jew] who altereth [change] the grace of Allah after it hath come unto him [Jew] (for him), lo! Allah is severe in punishment.

3:71. O People of the Scripture! [Jews and Christians] Why confound ye [as infidels] truth with falsehood and knowingly conceal the truth? [accused Jews of corruption of the scripture]

4:46. Some [ignorant zealous Jews] of those who are Jews change words from their context and say: "We hear and disobey; hear thou as one who heareth not" and "Listen to us!" [Ra'ina] distorting [twisting] with their tongues and slandering religion [alddeeni]. If they [Jews] had said: "We hear and we obey; hear thou, and look at us" it had been better for them, and more upright. But Allah hath cursed them [Jew infidels] for their disbelief, so they [Jews - infidels] believe not, save a few. [Ra'ina - pejorative]

5:13. And because of their [infidel Jews] breaking their covenant, We have cursed them [infidel Jews] and made hard their hearts. They [infidels] change words from their context and forget a part of that whereof they were admonished*. Thou wilt not cease to discover treachery from ALL [Jews] save a few of them. But bear with them and pardon them. Lo! Allah loveth the kindly. [* cautioned, reproved, scolded, or reminded?]
[/INDENT]

In the above verses in list (II) Allah has condemned the Jews and Christians for changing the words of the respective original version of the Quran-of-old from Allah.

Other than 4:46 the alterations and changes by the Jews, Christians and others refer to general changes of the scriptures.

Because Allah did not specify which specific verses or message was changed there is no way to determine which verses of the Qurans-of-old has not been changed.
[INDENT]For example, take the Gospels:
Because Allah has condemned the Christians for changing the words of the original revelations, how can Muslims know which verses in the Injil [originally from Allah] are still valid and which verses are the corrupted ones?
Allah did not specify which verses are corrupted in the injil but condemned the Christians for changing the verses in general and thus it could be any verse of the Gospels.[/INDENT]
Therefore it would be correct for Muslims to confirm the whole scripture of Torah and Gospels of the present [including any Qurans-of-old] had been corrupted and cannot be considered as Islamic.

The ONLY valid scripture for Muslims is the final, perfect, complete & immutable Quran [the sole words of Allah] and nothing else.

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[B]Indirect Verses[/B]
These are verses that do not mention the people of the Scriptures changed their book. However the contents and context indirectly imply the scriptures were changed.

7: 157. Those [Muslims] who follow the messenger [Muhammad], the Prophet who can neither read nor write, whom they [Muslims] will find described in the Torah and the Gospel (which are) with them [Muslims].
[1] He [Muhammad] will enjoin [prescribe with authority] on them [Muslims] that which is right and forbid them [Muslims] that which is wrong.
[2] He [Muhammad] will make lawful for them [Muslims] all good things and prohibit for them only the foul; and he will relieve them [Muslims] of their burden and the fetters that they [Muslims] used to wear. Then those [Muslims] who believe in him [Muhammad], and honour him and help him, and follow the light [Quran] which is sent down with him: they [Muslims] are the successful.

4:50. See, how they [Jew infidels] invent lies about Allah! That of itself is flagrant [unforgivable] sin [ithm].

5:15. O people of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger [Muhammad] come unto you [Jews & Christians], expounding unto you much of that which ye used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Now hath come unto you [Jews & Christians] light from Allah and a plain Scripture

61:7. And who [infidels] doth greater wrong than he [infidel - Jews] who inventeth a lie against Allah when he [infidel -Jews] is summoned unto Al Islam. And Allah guideth not wrongdoing folk [infidels].

61:8. Fain [eager, desirous] would they [infidels] put out the light of Allah with their mouths, but Allah will perfect His light however much the disbelievers are averse.


7:157 Allah claimed Muhammad is described in the original version of Torah and Gospels from Allah but such a description is not in the present Torah and Gospels.

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    God made he "THEM" not only HIM, to successfully translate Gods word from the true scrolls requires it to be from Hebrew and would require the Vatican to release the hidden scrolls, which they will never do as they have sealed their fate. The word of God is not just what the Quran holds, the claim to be the only ones that God favors shows self doubt and begs for acknowledged agreed others who only think as you do, so who is really ever the ONLY TRUTH? The answer will one day be made clear to all who pass through this world. The one on one with God we all here will someday witness is the answer we all seek, just the REAL TRUTH, and it is not up for debate, proof by a book that any man made, or any self righteous belief group in complete agreement that therefore it must be Gods Too? We all are to be humble, accept that we are here to do only Gods work, he knows our roles in his kingdom, he knows our thoughts, the only time anyone else can ever know is if we utter our thoughts through our tongues, so let no MAN ever put away what God places in your head, share the goodness without the blame and targets to one or a different group. I know God lives in many and many live for God, but also I see many are oblivious of truth when daily they labor to the goal of only to known by all others as "Gods Chosen Few"......I will do my work and my tasks and do the best that I can do, I will not allow the many, or the few, nor accept that anyone here on this Earth was sent only to announce "Who Is Who" to think that God has sent the :"Chosen Few" here to tell the others they are to listen and behold Who, Who, Who, and this whole journey was a like a popularity contest of gathering enough to agree as the truly only REAL "Gods Chosen Few."
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