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Old 04-21-2011, 01:32 AM
Arus
 
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Originally Posted by claudhopper View Post
You have anger issues, calm down.
You are providing documentation for citizenship - I am talking about NATURAL BORN CITIZEN. Two different things.
I'm not angry at all. I just find it hilarious that you run away from facts as you have done so and are now making up bull to support your claims.

There are only 2 (two) types of citizens in the US (there is no third option like you are suggesting);
1) Citizen by birth = Natural/Native Born
2) Became a citizen on your own accord = Naturalized.

There is no "special" case in citizenship. You are either born a citizen, or you became one through naturalization.

Since Obama didn't go through naturalization and by virtue of being born on US soil, he is a citizen by birth. And 200 years of CASE law, supported by the 14th Amendment of our Constitution, Obama is a natural born citizen.

There is no other type of citizen.

Birthers are making it up and you are spreading their lies.

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As I have said before, this issue needs to be defined by the Supreme Court, as to the intent of the founders when they wrote the following;
their intent is quite clear when they used Blackstone to support many of their ideas. Blackstone followed the English Common Law for establishing citizenship in the US.

That is why the 14th Amendment didn't need any more clarification when it was ratified, because it was understood that if you were born on US soil, you were a natural born. There are over a hundred cases that use Blackstone and the findings of Wong Kim Ark about who is a native born/natural born citizen, by the Supreme court as well as lower courts.

Since you haven't read the links provide, i suggest that you read it again
United States Code: Title 8,1401. Nationals and citizens of United States at birth | LII / Legal Information Institute


You quote the Constitution, yet you show you know nothing of its history or US History in general.


BTW, you have again skipped over this question:
Arizona senate passes birther bill


Care to comment why you are using a statute passed in 1982 to support your claims?
Why did you run away when it was shown you were patently wrong about a statute?



More on Blackstone:
http://www.blackstoneinstitute.org/s...lackstone.html
http://www.history1700s.com/articles/article1121.shtml
http://books.google.com/books?id=5Kd...tution&f=false
http://books.google.com/books?id=Ldg...page&q&f=false

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