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Old 09-18-2015, 08:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Woodrow LI View Post
I find the concept of blaming Islam to be bordering rediculous. That is like Blaiming Africa for Ebola.

Islam is nothing more and nothing less than submitting to Allaah(swt) Evil, good, violent etc comes from a person's own choices.
It is not a case of blaming for 'blame' sake.
Ebola was a serious threat to humanity and to resolve and prevent the disease the effective strategy was to find the proximate root causes and take preventive actions.

Now what we have in reality is this; [26,902]

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index_files/TROP.jpg



The above and other evils are the REALITY humanity must address, resolve and prevent. Just as how we approach the Ebola problem effectively to the root cause we need to do the same for the above Islamic violence.

I have traced the above root causes to;

1. DNA wise ALL humans has an inherent potential for evil.
2. 10% [conservatively] of humans are most likely to be reasonable evil prone.
3. Thus 10% of Muslims are evil prone
4. There are hundreds to thousands of evil laden [in degrees] verses in the Quran.
5. The combination of 3 & 4 culminate in the Reality highlighted in above statistics and elsewhere.
6. Therefore Islam [in part] has violent potentials as realized over the past centuries to the present.

The above conclusion in 6 is not 'blame' per se but actual proof based on verifiable evidences.

Therefore to resolve the problem one must first recognize the above factual root causes, i.e.
Islam [in part] is responsible for most of the evils and violence committed by SOME evil prone Muslims.
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I will agree that a minimum percentage of Human beings have a predisposistion for violence. Actually I suspect it is much high than 10% as evidenced by the human trait of enjoying watching violent act even such quiet past times like watching Foot ball, Soccor, Wrestling, action movies, or engaging in adrenaline inducing behaviors like base diving, drag racing etc.
Note I have revised my usual presentation to the following;

1. DNA wise ALL humans inherently has the potential for evil.
2. 10% [conservatively] of humans are most likely to be reasonable evil prone.
3. Thus 10% of Muslims are evil prone

I have used 10% as a very conservative estimate in this particular case. It could be more than 50% if we take into consideration the lesser evils of lying, stealing, bribery, selfishness, wife/child abuse, etc.

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Violence is rampant, the US alone has over 14.000 murders per year and over 1 million violent crimes.

The US population is almost exactly 1/5 the worlds Muslim Population and the amount of violence is actually at a higher per capita rate than what is found for the world's Islamic population. To match the US rate the Muslim population would have to be killing(Murdering ) 70,000 people annually, Last year the number was 37,000 or roughly 1/2 the rate by Americans. But to be fair it should be noted that nearly all of those deaths were in a very small region Yemen, Iraq and Syria. Which gives them very high visibility.

There is no indication that Islam results in a higher rate of violence than what is found in the non-Muslim population. Contrarily, the violence rate per capita in Islamic nations is lower than what is found in non-Muslim populations and would be even much lower if the unrest in the Mideast were ended.
This is your usual deflection and not recognizing a particular evil for what it is.

I have stated, ALL human evils and violence must be addressed.
As a principle of Problem-Solving Technique, it is essential to break down a problem into common pattern and manageable units to facilitate efficiency.
This is why we have specialists in all fields of human activities, e.g. medicine, psychology, knowledge, etc.
Would you recommend such an approach?

One significant division is breaking the issues of evil into
1. Secular and
2. Religious [related and inspired]

Since this is a Religion/Spirituality forum it is inappropriate to bring in non-religious evil as a red-herring.

The tendency to dilute the specific evils of religion with other evils is purely due to psychological and emotional factors of the individual.
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