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Old 07-10-2009, 07:35 AM
djdairyp
 
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Somewhat depends on what you teach, what level and if HS what subject??

The economy is a bit of a problem. Some schools have actually had cuts, some have had retirements and not hired new teachers. It certainly is not ideal, but there are jobs to be had.

Here is the easiest source to find jobs.
OLAS JOBS

And nassau schools that do not post on here post on their own websites. You can find out these schools by looking here
In School Districts (http://www.nassauboces.org/hr/employment_opportunities/school_districts/ - broken link)

Olas has both nassau and suffolk schools, not sure about schools in suffolk that do not post on olas, you could paruse school websites.

The NY times is also a good source, its how I found my job. Your only advantage is that it is summer and schools that might be posting will be more desperate now and you have an easier time getting a job as most experienced applicants have already gone through the looking/interviewing phases, but since unemployment is high there might just be a lot more people looking anyhow now. The fact that you don't actually have a initial NY certification right now is probably a big problem. Schools interviewing will most likely have mostly certified applicant applying and that alone might weed you out. However, you can look at private schools as they are often more willing to take a non certified teacher. I originally taught at a private school with zero experience, no certification, no teaching classes, nothing ... it was trial by fire for sure, quite an interesting experience but learned a lot.

Here is a ranking of LI schools posted here once before. These are high schools but the high schools will represent the district as a whole. For the most part, salaries are not all that variable between schools though nassau as a whole will pay more. The list below is subjective, but the higher up on the list probably the 'easier' your teaching experience might be (less discipline issues, more motivation, etc .... not necessarily the case but probably true). Since the economy is not so good, some districts are taking zero credit for teaching experience and simply saying, if you get a job here you will start on step 1 even if you have 20 yrs experience.

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School (District)........................................ ............Standard Ranking (County/Percent Free Lunch)
Wheatley School (East Williston)........................................ .245.0 (N/3%)
Cold Spring Harbor HS (CHS Central)....................................238.0 (S/<1%)
Great Neck South (Great Neck)...........................................23 6.6 (N/3%)
Plainview-Old Bethpage (Plainview-Old Bethpage)..................232.7 (N/2%)
Roslyn High School (Roslyn).......................................... .....232.1 (N/12%)
Garden City HS (Garden City)............................................. 231.7 (N/0%)
Syosset High School (Syosset)......................................... ..230.7 (N/1%)
Manhasset High School (Manhasset)....................................227 .6 (N/3%)
Jericho HS (Jericho)......................................... .................225.0 (N/<1%)
Paul D. Schreiber (Port Washington).....................................22 3.4 (N/5%)
Herricks High School (Herricks)........................................ ....212.4 (N/1%)
JFK (Bellmore-Merrick).......................................... .............212.0 (N/<1%)
Wantagh High School (Wantagh)......................................... 211.7 (N/<1%)
Locust Valley HS (Locust Valley).........................................21 0.5 (N/4%)
Hauppauge High School (Hauppauge)...................................208. 1 (S/5%)
Harborfields High School (Harborfields Central).......................205.7 (S/3%)
Carle Place Senior High School (Carle Place)..........................200.4 (N/4%)
Half Hollow Hills HS West (Half Hollow Hills)............................197.9 (S/7%)
Half Hollow Hills HS East (Half Hollow Hills).............................197.8 (S/6%)
Ward Melville (Three Village).......................................... .....197.7 (S/2%)
Calhoun (Bellmore-Merrick).......................................... .......197.3 (N/1%)
Great Neck North (Great Neck)...........................................19 6.1 (N/7%)
Smithtown High School East (Smithtown).............................195.2 (S/0%)
Mount Sinai High School (Mount Sinai).................................194.8 (S/1%)
Gen. Douglas MacArthur HS (LEVITTOWN)............................194.3 (N/4%)
Earl L. Vandermeulen HS (Port Jefferson)..............................193.5 (S/3%)
North Shore HS (North Shore)............................................ 192.6 (N/6%)
George W. Hewlett (Hewlett-Woodmere)..............................191.7 (N/1%)
Babylon Senior High School (Babylon)...................................190.0 (S/6%)
Massapequa High School (Massapequa)................................186.8 (N/<1%)
Elwood/John Glenn HS (Elwood).......................................... .186.4 (S/12%)
Lynbrook Senior HS (Lynbrook)........................................ ....186.3 (N/<1%)
New Hyde Park Memorial (NHP)............................................1 86.0 (N/4%)
Bayport-Blue Point HS (Bayport-Blue Point)............................185.8 (S/4%)
Oyster Bay HS (Oyster Bay-East Norwich).............................183.4 (N/9%)
Mattituck SHS (Mattituck-Cutchogue)..................................178.9 (S/4%)
Hicksville High School (Hicksville)...................................... ...178.1 (N/9%)
Northport SHS (Northport-East Northport).............................177.5 (S/5%)
Westhampton Beach SHS (Westhampton Beach).....................177.3 (S/3%)
South Side High School (Rockville Centre).............................175.4 (N/11%)
Smithtown HS West (Smithtown)....................................... ..173.3 (S/4%)
Walt Whitman HS (South Huntington)...................................171. 6 (S/23%)
Floral Park Memorial (Floral Park)..........................................170 .8 (N/10%)
Islip High School (Islip)........................................... ............169.8 (S/19%)
Lindenhurst High School (Lindenhurst)..................................168 .8 (S/7%)
Mepham (Bellmore-Merrick).......................................... .......168.6 (N/2%)
West Islip Senior High School (West Islip)..............................167.9 (S/3%)
Sayville High School (Sayville)........................................ .....166.6 (S/3%)
Bethpage Senior High School (Bethpage)...............................165.7 (N/6%)
Connetquot High School (Connetquot)...................................164 .3 (S/9%)
Valley Stream North (VS North)............................................ 163.9 (N/3%)
Island Trees HS (Island Trees)............................................ .162.6 (N/6%)
Bridgehampton School (Bridgehampton).................................16 2.1 (S/31%)
Valley Stream South HS (VS South)......................................161.3 (N/4%)
Kings Park High School (Kings Park)......................................159.3 (S/3%)
Commack High School (Commack)........................................1 59.0 (S/2%)
Eastport-South Manor (Eastport-South Manor).......................158.6 (S/??)
Southold High School (Southold)........................................ ..157.9 (S/7%)
Pierson (Sag Harbor)........................................... ..............157.2 (S/3%)
Mineola High School (Mineola)......................................... ....157.1 (N/10%)
East Islip High School (East Islip).........................................157 .0 (S/5%)
Oceanside Senior High School............................................ .156.7 (N/3%)
Division Avenue HS (Levittown)....................................... ....151.5 (N/5%)
Glen Cove HS (Glen Cove)............................................. .....151.4 (N/16%)
Baldwin SHS (Baldwin)......................................... ..............150.1 (N/0% ??)
Miller Place High School (Miller Place)...................................149.9 (S/2%)
Valley Stream Central (VS Central)......................................149. 2 (N/3%)
Seaford High School (Seaford)......................................... ...147.7 (N/1%)
Plainedge Senior High School (Plainedge)..............................145.0 (N/6%)
H. Frank Carey HS (Sewanhaka)....................................... ..141.7 (N/13%)
Elmont Memorial (Elmont).......................................... ........141.1 (N/23%)
W. Tresper Clarke High School (East Meadow).......................138.3 (N/9%)
Shoreham-Wading River (Shoreham-Wading River)..................137.8 (S/2%)
Long Beach High School (Long Beach)..................................136.7 (N/14%)
Sewanhaka HS (Sewanhaka)....................................... .......136.3 (N/29%)
Newfield High School (Middle Country)..................................135.7 (S/13%)
Huntington High School (Huntington)....................................13 4.7 (S)
Village School (Great Neck)............................................. ...132.6 (N/0%)
Sachem High School West (Sachem)....................................131.5 (S/8%)
Shelter Island HS (Shelter Island)........................................131 .2 (S/??)
Malverne High School (Malverne)........................................ .130.1 (N/22%)
Sachem High School East (Sachem).....................................129.3 (S/??)
West Hempstead HS (West Hempstead)...............................129.2 (N/9%)
Patchogue-Medford HS (Patchogue-Medford)........................127.9 (S/12%)
Farmingdale High School (Farmingdale).................................127. 7 (N/12%)
East Hampton High School (East Hampton)...........................125.7 (S/6%)
West Babylon SHS (West Babylon)......................................125. 5 (S/13%)
Lawrence High School (Lawrence).......................................1 24.8 (N/17%)
Rocky Point High School (Rocky Point).................................123.2 (S/10%)
Comsewogue (Brookhaven-Comsewogue).............................120.7 (S/9%)
Southampton High School (Southampton)............................120.4 (S/9%)
Longwood High School (Longwood).....................................115 .7 (S/17%)
Center Moriches High School (Center Moriches).....................115.0 (S/11%)
East Meadow High School (East Meadow).............................114.0 (N/8%)
Bay Shore SHS (Bay Shore)............................................ ...111.9 (S/35%)
East Rockaway SHS (East Rockaway)..................................111.8 (N/11%)
Hampton Bays Secondary (Hampton Bays)............................111.6 (S/16%)
North Babylon HS (North Babylon).......................................111 .4 (S/6%)
William Floyd High School (William Floyd)...............................104.8 (S/28%)
Riverhead High School (Riverhead)....................................... .99.6 (S/27%)
Centereach High School (Middle Country)...............................99.3 (S/12%)
Deer Park High School (Deer Park).........................................95.8 (S/13%)
Bellport High School (South Country).....................................90.6 (S/19%)
Walter G. O'Connell (Copiague)........................................ .....90.3 (S/28%)
Brentwood High School (Brentwood)......................................8 4.8 (S/54%)
Amityville Memorial (Amityville)...................................... .......78.0 (S/35%)
Central Islip HS (Central Islip)............................................ ..57.2 (S/27%)
Freeport High School (Freeport)........................................ ...53.3 (N/26%)
Hempstead High School (Hempstead)....................................37. 9 (N/42%)
Roosevelt (Roosevelt)....................................... .................34.1 (N/100%)
Westbury High School (Westbury)........................................ 32.9 (N/64%)
Wyandanch Memorial (Wyandanch)....................................... 13.8 (S/26%)


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As for getting a job here, like I said before it depends on what you teach. Elementary is tough to get since there is a lot of supply for it. The best is HS science, math and language. HS history and english also has a large supply unless you are a specialist like economics or something like that.

There is some nepotism/networking hiring bias, but it is not nearly as bad as people make it seem (at least in HS). In my school, I know very few teachers that had 'ins' to get jobs. Most of them came from other LI schools or the city and were simply the best applicant for the job which is what many of the schools are looking for. When I started, a guy from canada got a job at the school also. He did say he had to pay some laywer like $1000 to expedite something (a work visa, or something like that) which would have taken way longer. He said in canada college is 5 years and is like having a masters but the school didn't take that at salary credit. He dragged his feet and never got or even started his masters degree (it is required in NYS within 5 or so yrs of getting initial certificate) so after 3 yrs they finally said, it doesn't look like you are interested in getting tenure and your certificate will be expiring soon so you are gone.
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