Vero Beach Sex Offender Mystery Solved - CD Reporting Error

[runswithscissors]

Having been a former systems analyst it's been bugging me how Vero Beach can have the second highest ratio of people to sex offenders in all the cities I looked at in FL on City Data. CD is reporting 150:1. That's pretty high compared to everywhere else.

The Mystery is solved. After speaking with the Registered Sex Offender detective for the county, and the Registered Sex Offender detective coordinator for the FDLE website it appears city data's data is a bit off. They must have obtained it from a source that was combining zip codes or cd has a coding error themselves.

Vero Beach is a city of approx 17,000 in just the city and it's the county seat. There is an MSA total of 132,000. (metro area)

City Data is including sex offenders from the MSA onto the Vero Beach city page. Without including the population, just the offenders. This is increasing VB's count/ratio by 28%.

The MSA's have their OWN cd page and their offenders should be on THEIR page LOL.

Two examples are Gifford 32267 and North Beach that would have raised the VB population by about 8300 onto the 17000 reported.

Our entire COUNTY has 147 offenders as of today, per the detective.

Indian river COUNTY has a population of about 132,000 not including snowbirds.

Vero Beach is being reported on City Data as having 114 of the offenders out of 147.

Vero Beach is being reported with zip codes of 32960 through 32969.

32967 goes FROM Gifford ALL THE WAY UP TO WABASSO.

Gifford is not Vero Beach it's an MSA.

If you look at the FDLE site, there are about 33 offenders in Gifford and SOME (not all) unincorporated areas north...ll the way up to Wabasso.

If you look at the Gifford City Data page, there are ZERO sex offenders.

I didnt even study 32966 which is west incorporated where there are also more.


City Data is including the Gifford sex offenders on the Vero Beach page not the Gifford page and the Gifford population not counted is 8,000 people.

That's half the population of the Vero Beach sample size so the results would be totally different if the count was correct. Less by at least 28%.

Either 33 of the 114 Vero Beach offenders should move over to the Gifford page OR the Gifford Population of 8000 (and other msas with offenders) needs to go into the Vero Beach population count of 17,000 changing it to at least 25,000.

Same with ALL the unincoporated zips. Vero's population is being VERY underreported if you want to include the offenders from outside the city limits. I'm sure this is a county, data lookup issue if it's not your code.


The Detective assures me he is reporting the counts to the FDLE for the entire county daily so the site is accurate. He suggests we visit the new sherrif's website ircsherrif dot org to keep up with what's going on.

The FDLE assured me that each county is REQUIRED to report and notify the state on churn of these people and that local departments are not allowed to underreport.

Our county ratio is 884:1 and Vero Beach is NOT 150:1 as it appears on CD.

This thread is not in anticipation of snark, debates, or trolling comments.

Either take the info or ignore it.


ETA:

Here's the city's official map of boundaries in PDF Everything IN THE BLUE is the city with the 17000 population. NOTHING OUTSIDE OF BLUE IS IN THAT COUNT.

I know also because I moved west and they would not pick up a stray dog because I was in UNINCORPORATED VB. If you open the PDF you'll see how SMALL the city actually is compared to the MSA.

I really dont know the true population of the MSA but 132,000 is a huge difference from 17,000.

http://www.covb.org/vertical/Sites/%...8176346%7D.PDF


I used to test code so I know this data problem is tricky but wanted it on the record until it can be figured out for all prospective and current VB residents.

[runswithscissors]

^^ My quick and dirty suggestion is to point to COUNTY total population and county total registered sex offenders if possible.

But you'd have to change the wording from "vero beach" to "Indian River County" in that code.

Or dummy it out altogether.

Not to get too into it ....but if you have a table you maintain you can just change the numbers at least or something like that.

The problem is the city of vero and the FDLE site do NOT keep registered sex offenders counts by CITY VERSUS unincorporated and neither one keeps the stats by % of population. Both of them told me that.

[Macrina]

Wow, RSWS, you've done a lot of good detective work here and I don't blame you, because I've heard that VB is a great place to live. And the skewed statistic makes it look badly.

What I would rec. for you to do is to DM Marka or Yac with the url of this thread, just to bring it to their attention, if you've not already done so.

I.e., even though this forum is About The Forum, I am not certain they necessarily come here every day to read, and the idea is for them to get the info as soon as possible, I'm sure.

They'll know to whom to send it on.

[runswithscissors]

Originally Posted by Macrina

Wow, RSWS, you've done a lot of good detective work here and I don't blame you, because I've heard that VB is a great place to live. And the skewed statistic makes it look badly.

What I would rec. for you to do is to DM Marka or Yac with the url of this thread, just to bring it to their attention, if you've not already done so.

I.e., even though this forum is About The Forum, I am not certain they necessarily come here every day to read, and the idea is for them to get the info as soon as possible, I'm sure.

They'll know to whom to send it on.

Thanks, I will. I dm'd "admin" but don't know who gets that.

PENSACOLA may have the same issue.They are in an MSA and their ratio is the WORST at 96:1.
I didn't look into their issues but that includes Escambia county and I've seen press releases about sex offenders there. CD shows Escambia county having a total labor force of 134.347 and Pensacola has 563 sex offenders.

If you look at CD's zip code map on the Pensacola page there's a huge number of zip codes being used....it's way beyond just Pensacola and appears to be the whole county just my opinion, I'm not an expert on that area.

I lived in unincorporated Vero 32966 and CD has a page for that zip LISTING 13,000 population.

That is NOT included in the Vero Beach 17,000 population but their offenders ARE.


They also have a page on 32960 with a population of 20,000

http://www.city-data.com/zips/32966.html
http://www.city-data.com/zips/32960.html


so in those two zips alone that's 33000 people BUT THE SEX OFFENDER MATH IS BASED ON 17,000.

LOL I didn't need to look for a new job in IT, I can do user software testing right here.

[Macrina]

Originally Posted by runswithscissors

Thanks, I will. I dm'd "admin" but don't know who gets that.

PENSACOLA may have the same issue.They are in an MSA and their ratio is the WORST at 96:1.
I didn't look into their issues but that includes Escambia county and I've seen press releases about sex offenders there. CD shows Escambia county having a total labor force of 134.347 and Pensacola has 563 sex offenders.

If you look at CD's zip code map on the Pensacola page there's a huge number of zip codes being used....it's way beyond just Pensacola and appears to be the whole county just my opinion, I'm not an expert on that area.

I lived in unincorporated Vero 32966 and CD has a page for that zip LISTING 13,000 population.

That is NOT included in the Vero Beach 17,000 population but their offenders ARE.


They also have a page on 32960 with a population of 20,000

http://www.city-data.com/zips/32966.html
http://www.city-data.com/zips/32960.html


so in those two zips alone that's 33000 people BUT THE SEX OFFENDER MATH IS BASED ON 17,000.

LOL I didn't need to look for a new job in IT, I can do user software testing right here.

Ummm, as far as I know Administrator is the owner of CD.... lol ... That should "get er done"!

[mindy_bogue]

Man rws you do your homework your one of the only people on here that I trust there opinions. Keep it up you bring knowledge to this forum thanks for that.

[NewToCA]

Good solid analysis there RWS, hopefully you can get the listed data reevaluated.