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Old 09-09-2012, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Chapel Hill, N.C.
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These people have certainly been through fire and ice to adopt Daniel. i wish them luck.

Adopting Daniel: US Couple Tests New Guatemala Law - ABC News
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:10 PM
 
Location: Warren, OH
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These people have certainly been through fire and ice to adopt Daniel. i wish them luck.

Adopting Daniel: US Couple Tests New Guatemala Law - ABC News

I wish them luck as well.
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Old 09-11-2012, 01:46 PM
 
Location: The New England part of Ohio
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They have been through a lot and I wish them the best.

~Sheena
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Old 09-13-2012, 10:08 AM
 
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I hope they get their son home soon ..... We were in the midst of an adoption from Guatemala when their system fell apart.
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Old 09-17-2012, 05:54 PM
 
Location: Western Canada
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The reason their 'system' fell apart is that the rebels began abducting children so they could sell them to buy arms. In many cases the children's parents were shot and killed, orphaning them immediately so they could be sold to unwitting but well meaning (and well heeled) adopters in the United States. Several Catholic missions were complicit and have been shut down as well.

The Guatemalan army stole at least 333 children and sold them for adoption in other countries during the Central American nation's 36-year civil war, a government report has concluded.
Some parents were killed, others were unharmed when soldiers came calling.
Guatemalan army stole children for adoption, report says - CNN.com

“Finding Fernanda” is an investigative work of nonfiction. It’s the story of $30,000 U.S. dollars, four Guatemalan “orphans,” one nonprofit evangelical Christian adoption agency, a family-run child-trafficking ring, one infant cut from her unconscious mother’s womb, two tiny missing sisters, and a nine-member Tennessee family who believed wholeheartedly in Christian love and faith—until the dark side of international adoption shattered their blind trust.
Finding Fernanda by Erin Siegal*|*One child, two mothers, and a cross-border search for truth

Aniyeli was taken from her mother, Loyda Rodríguez, at gunpoint from the front yard of her own home. Timothy and Jennifer Monahan have refused to return Aniyeli to her lawful mother, claiming they adopted her and they own her now. Jennifer got her aunt to masquerade as the birth mother.
AOL.com Video - Guatemalan Mother Asks the US Court For the Return of Her Abducted Daughter
Child Abduction for Adoption: Poverty and Privilege Clash as a Child

Pedro Garcia, formerly the country's highest ranking police officer, has been sentenced to 70 years in jail for war crimes.
Guatemala jails former police chief for war crimes | World news | guardian.co.uk

Guatemala is widely considered to have had the worst international adoption improprieties over the longest period of time. In 2006 and 2007, Guatemala sent almost as many children to the United States for adoption as China, despite a hundred-fold difference in size: In 2007, China sent 5,453 out of its population of 1.3 billion. In the same year, Guatemala sent 4,728 out of its 13 million. In that year, and several years before, an astonishing one out of every 110 Guatemalan children born was adopted in the United States.
Guatemala | Adoption | Gender & Justice Project | Schuster Institute | Brandeis University

"Why was there ever a question about whether or not this child should be immediately returned? Is it because of the idea that American life is better than Guatemalan life? Is it because of the belief that more money equals better parenting? Is it because the adoption industry is so in need of ethical reform that no one even knows what to do or think when an obvious case of unethical practice smacks them in the face? "
Facts: Kidnapping Is Always a Crime and Adoption Desperately Needs Reform | BlogHer

News Reports of Adoption Irregularities in Guatemala
News Reports, Guatemala | Adoption | Gender & Justice Project | Schuster Institute | Brandeis University

Much much worse has been going on in Guatemala than disrupted adoptions. My sympathies go first to the Guatemalan people who are being killed for their babies, to Guatemalan parents whose children were taken at gunpoint and their children.

Last edited by Scott_K; 09-17-2012 at 06:49 PM.. Reason: clarity
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Old 09-18-2012, 07:44 AM
 
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The reason their 'system' fell apart is that the rebels began abducting children so they could sell them to buy arms. In many cases the children's parents were shot and killed, orphaning them immediately so they could be sold to unwitting but well meaning (and well heeled) adopters in the United States. Several Catholic missions were complicit and have been shut down as well.

The Guatemalan army stole at least 333 children and sold them for adoption in other countries during the Central American nation's 36-year civil war, a government report has concluded.
Some parents were killed, others were unharmed when soldiers came calling.
Guatemalan army stole children for adoption, report says - CNN.com

“Finding Fernanda” is an investigative work of nonfiction. It’s the story of $30,000 U.S. dollars, four Guatemalan “orphans,” one nonprofit evangelical Christian adoption agency, a family-run child-trafficking ring, one infant cut from her unconscious mother’s womb, two tiny missing sisters, and a nine-member Tennessee family who believed wholeheartedly in Christian love and faith—until the dark side of international adoption shattered their blind trust.
Finding Fernanda by Erin Siegal*|*One child, two mothers, and a cross-border search for truth

Aniyeli was taken from her mother, Loyda Rodríguez, at gunpoint from the front yard of her own home. Timothy and Jennifer Monahan have refused to return Aniyeli to her lawful mother, claiming they adopted her and they own her now. Jennifer got her aunt to masquerade as the birth mother.
AOL.com Video - Guatemalan Mother Asks the US Court For the Return of Her Abducted Daughter
Child Abduction for Adoption: Poverty and Privilege Clash as a Child

Pedro Garcia, formerly the country's highest ranking police officer, has been sentenced to 70 years in jail for war crimes.
Guatemala jails former police chief for war crimes | World news | guardian.co.uk

Guatemala is widely considered to have had the worst international adoption improprieties over the longest period of time. In 2006 and 2007, Guatemala sent almost as many children to the United States for adoption as China, despite a hundred-fold difference in size: In 2007, China sent 5,453 out of its population of 1.3 billion. In the same year, Guatemala sent 4,728 out of its 13 million. In that year, and several years before, an astonishing one out of every 110 Guatemalan children born was adopted in the United States.
Guatemala | Adoption | Gender & Justice Project | Schuster Institute | Brandeis University

"Why was there ever a question about whether or not this child should be immediately returned? Is it because of the idea that American life is better than Guatemalan life? Is it because of the belief that more money equals better parenting? Is it because the adoption industry is so in need of ethical reform that no one even knows what to do or think when an obvious case of unethical practice smacks them in the face? "
Facts: Kidnapping Is Always a Crime and Adoption Desperately Needs Reform | BlogHer

News Reports of Adoption Irregularities in Guatemala
News Reports, Guatemala | Adoption | Gender & Justice Project | Schuster Institute | Brandeis University

Much much worse has been going on in Guatemala than disrupted adoptions. My sympathies go first to the Guatemalan people who are being killed for their babies, to Guatemalan parents whose children were taken at gunpoint and their children.
Thank you for posting this - we bgan our adotion afte a heartbreaking , late pregnancy. Around the same time, friends we knew from the infertility community began adopting. It was astonishing how "easy" it was - some people we knew brought home two (unrelated) babies at a time!

The things that appealed to us were - My husband, due to his job, was limited on when and where he could travel. At the time, children lived in foster homes while awaiting adoption - and you could go there and live , while fostering your referral. It was close enough that we would be able to return on a regular basis so the child could know their home country.

The agency we used stressed that the children available were far more healthier than other countries because , according to them, Guatemala is strongly Roman Catholic and most of the children landed in foster care because they were born to unwed mothers.

However - as time went on - we began to feel uneasy about the whole situation. Something felt wrong. So we dropped out. I think thatadoptiong stopped about 9 months later....
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