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Orphanage Donations: On December 7, 2017, at the request of the Ministry of Civil Affairs, CCCWA issued a public notice on orphanage donations by adoptive parents. The notice explained that adoptive parents may offer a voluntary donation to the child welfare institution after the adoption registration is finalized. It has been clarified that the amount and method of submitting a voluntary donation should be left to the adoptive parents, and donations should not be made until after the adoption is registered in the province. Per the notice, CCCWA may take action against any ASP in which it believes the agency, or its representatives, have pressured families to make donations. In response to inquiries about what to do if an orphanage pressures a family to make a donation, adoptive parents and/or the ASP should report this to the local Department of Civil Affairs in the province.
Interesting. This must be an attempt by the government to address the corruption that was found in their adoption system. I always had mixed feelings about the "mandatory donations." In general, though foreign adoptions from China have been decreasing. Hopefully the government is serious about addressing some of the most egregious actions.
Interesting. This must be an attempt by the government to address the corruption that was found in their adoption system. I always had mixed feelings about the "mandatory donations." In general, though foreign adoptions from China have been decreasing. Hopefully the government is serious about addressing some of the most egregious actions.
There have been numerous examples of corruption that have shut down other countries international adoption programs. China's program seems to be immune to Hague shutdown for some reasons. More than six orphanage have been involved in the buying and selling of children and now this questionable practice, but still have not suspended China as they did for Cambodia, Vietnam, Congo, etc.
They're "immune" because they're technically Hague compliant. The Hague treaty was a UNICEF backed attempt to stop adoptions, with some vague notions of stopping corruption. But the changes caused by the treaty really didn't do much to stop the corruption that happened in various countries.
I'm sure much of the reason that we haven't seen shutdowns of Chinese adoptions has most to do with the fact that China is a much more powerful country than is Vietnam, Cambodia, or any of the others. China also has a strong and stable government (noting that strong and stable does not mean they are good or ethical or do what is truly in the best interests of the people, but merely that it is indeed strong and stable and therefore has much more clout on the world stage.)
The adoption fees did indeed create perverse financial incentives for certain people, and in the end, it is not surprising that led to corruption.
The program is not as large as it used to be, and the number of adoptions fall each year. Currently, most people adopting from China adopt so-called special needs children. There are not nearly the same number of of healthy babies available (and that is, in most aspects, a good thing).
We were always very happy to donate to our Russian baby homes. It was the least we could do for all the wonderful children we couldn't adopt ourselves .
There have been numerous examples of corruption that have shut down other countries international adoption programs. China's program seems to be immune to Hague shutdown for some reasons. More than six orphanage have been involved in the buying and selling of children and now this questionable practice, but still have not suspended China as they did for Cambodia, Vietnam, Congo, etc.
Your original post described how this "questionable practice" is now expressly forbidden by the Chinese government. Why would we suspend China for taking a proactive step in reducing corruption?
Your original post described how this "questionable practice" is now expressly forbidden by the Chinese government. Why would we suspend China for taking a proactive step in reducing corruption?
Many international countries have been suspended for the activities listed in the articles above that occurred in China. There have been documented cases which have ended in indictments and convictions. These convictions clearly document that various orphanage directors using adoption donations to purchase infants from various sources. Also, the Hague, an international body that determines international adoption regulations, did rule that these forced donations seems to be a payment for the infant and this violates several tenants of the Hague treaty. So it appears that instead of ruling China was not in compliance with the Hague treat, they simply changed their policy to prevent a ruling of non-compliance.
We were always very happy to donate to our Russian baby homes. It was the least we could do for all the wonderful children we couldn't adopt ourselves .
Yes, that is the theoretical justification. But it subsequently became clear that this money was incentivizing orphanage directors to do things like kidnapping babies, or going out to find more babies to adopt out when they were running low. Babies that were being hidden for being over quota but being cared for by their families were taken by authorities when in other areas without orphanages that got this kind of money would look the other way would be taken and adopted out. Or sometimes even babies that were not over quota but were somehow otherwise desirable would be seized by authorities. Some really heartbreaking and horrendous things went on, which is what happens when large sums of money are dangled.
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