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Old 01-31-2010, 08:01 PM
 
Location: Mid-Atlantic
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America should take care of our own kids first. There are plenty of starving children right here in our own country that need aid and plenty of them also need adoptive homes.
True. HOWEVER... have you ever looked into the Domestic Adoption process here in the United States? Our social welfare system is a complete mess and it makes it near impossible for a family to go through the process .
There are so much involved in any adoption process, but with a Domestic one, there are so many different laws from state to state,agency to agency.
Each state has their own laws pertaining to when a birth parent can change their mind,etc..
Can you imagine having an infant in your home for 9 months, you have bonded with this child, and then you receive a call from your agency telling you that the birth parent has changed their mind? You must give your child back to the person who gave birth to him/her?

Yes, the United States has many children in need of good homes, but the United States are the ones who makes it difficult for those children to be placed in good homes.
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Old 01-31-2010, 09:03 PM
 
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10 Americans Arrested While Taking Children From Haiti - AOL News

The 10 who tried to take 33 kids out of Haiti may be facing kidnapping charges. Some of the kids have parents who were told the kids were being taken to camp or holiday to get them out of the chaos. One 8 year old girl was crying, saying she was not an orphan, she has parents.

There are others who also have parents.
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Old 01-31-2010, 10:32 PM
 
Location: California
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I read about some kids who got out ASAP. Their American adoptions had been finialized already and it was just a matter of red tape. I'm happy for those families.
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Old 02-02-2010, 12:32 PM
 
Location: Utah
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America should take care of our own kids first. There are plenty of starving children right here in our own country that need aid and plenty of them also need adoptive homes.
There are 10,000,000s+ children world-wide without a family to raise them. Be they in the US or anywhere else, ALL children need parents.
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Old 02-02-2010, 10:56 PM
 
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There are 10,000,000s+ children world-wide without a family to raise them. Be they in the US or anywhere else, ALL children need parents.
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You're absolutely correct, Lola. And, do you know that inspite of this fact that the number of international adoptions is declining? New international treaties that have gone into effect a few years ago (The Hague Convention) have increased the paperwork and redtape involved. Poor countries feel "stigmatized" because Americans come there and adopt children from their orphanages.

I certainly don't condone child stealing. These people shouldn't have been trying to remove children from Haiti without the consent of the Haitian government. That being said: Why does Haiti condone the literal enslavement of children brought into urban areas from its country side? Child stealing and child selling in Haiti is rampant. Its a very poor country and this has gone on for decades with little being said about it.

There are certain misconceptions about the adoption process that alot of people either don't realize or don't want to face up too. The children that are available for adoption in the USA tend to be older and have serious problems that make alot of people shy away from adoption. I include fetal alcohol syndrome, in utero exposure to drugs, and difficulty bonding (often because these kids have been shuffled through half a dozen or more foster homes). Most adoptive parents I know want to be able to name their child which is very difficult to do with older kids. Many of these kids are not far from their eighteenth birthday and adulthood anyway.

The reason so many American couples have gone abroad in search of children is because adoption of young children is particularly difficult in the USA. In our case, we finally adopted two infants here in our country, but only after after a total of nine stressful years.

What I've concluded after alot of experience and observation is that child welfare problems are going to increase. Despite that, adoptions are likely to decrease. Politicians will continue to claim they are doing something when, in reality, they aren't. Meanwhile, the suffering of kids will go on while most of us are powerless to do much about it.
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Old 02-04-2010, 10:14 AM
 
Location: Texas
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There are 10,000,000s+ children world-wide without a family to raise them. Be they in the US or anywhere else, ALL children need parents.
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You're absolutely correct, Lola. And, do you know that inspite of this fact that the number of international adoptions is declining? New international treaties that have gone into effect a few years ago (The Hague Convention) have increased the paperwork and redtape involved. Poor countries feel "stigmatized" because Americans come there and adopt children from their orphanages.

I certainly don't condone child stealing. These people shouldn't have been trying to remove children from Haiti without the consent of the Haitian government. That being said: Why does Haiti condone the literal enslavement of children brought into urban areas from its country side? Child stealing and child selling in Haiti is rampant. Its a very poor country and this has gone on for decades with little being said about it.

There are certain misconceptions about the adoption process that alot of people either don't realize or don't want to face up too. The children that are available for adoption in the USA tend to be older and have serious problems that make alot of people shy away from adoption. I include fetal alcohol syndrome, in utero exposure to drugs, and difficulty bonding (often because these kids have been shuffled through half a dozen or more foster homes). Most adoptive parents I know want to be able to name their child which is very difficult to do with older kids. Many of these kids are not far from their eighteenth birthday and adulthood anyway.

The reason so many American couples have gone abroad in search of children is because adoption of young children is particularly difficult in the USA. In our case, we finally adopted two infants here in our country, but only after after a total of nine stressful years.

What I've concluded after alot of experience and observation is that child welfare problems are going to increase. Despite that, adoptions are likely to decrease. Politicians will continue to claim they are doing something when, in reality, they aren't. Meanwhile, the suffering of kids will go on while most of us are powerless to do much about it.
This is quite true. It is usually very difficult to adopt an infant in the US without waiting quite a few years as you indicated. Thanks for posting this. There are a lot of issues involved. Not always as easy as it would appear on first glance.
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