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Old 08-11-2010, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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A lot of people consider Morocco, Algeria, Tunisia and Libya Middle Eastern because they're Muslim/Arab countries. Of course, geographically, they're very far away from what you'd call the Middle East, but there's no doubt they're in the same world as the Middle East and a different world from Europe or black Africa because of the linguistic and religious ties and shared history and desert climate.
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Old 08-11-2010, 05:43 AM
 
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I believe Egypt is considered part of the Middle East. But the rest of the Northern African countries are not part of the Middle East. They are simply part of North Africa which is mainly an Arab/Muslim region.
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Old 11-07-2010, 12:11 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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i guess like ... culturally they're middle eastern, but geographically they're not. after all morocco is as far away from saudi arabia as california is from new york.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:04 PM
 
Location: Duluth, Minnesota, USA
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A bonus is that in (at least low-noise) locations in Morocco, you can hear Saudi Arabia's mega-powered transmitters on your AM radio at night.
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:50 PM
 
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They are not the Middle East, they are part of the greater Muslim World but have way more in common with the Middle East than the rest of Africa.
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Old 11-07-2010, 09:03 PM
 
Location: Toronto
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Not the traditional definition (dark green), but it's associated with and considered part of the Greater Middle East by the G8 (lighter green). Other countries associated are in the lightest green.

(Info from Wikipedia)


North Africa is Arabic speaking though so, if you associate the Arab world with the Middle East (as well as the non-Arab nations of Turkey and Iran), you could argue it fits. It is also predominantly Muslim, but a large majority part of the Muslim population lives outside the Middle East anyways (many in Africa and Asia).
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:05 AM
 
Location: western East Roman Empire
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Middle East is a term created by the British Empire, the region between the homeland (England/UK) and India, then China, the Far East. Punto e basta.

The term is also used by its successor and by chance same-language empire, the United States, but for no other apparent reason.

The term is also translated into other languages, from Italian to Chinese, but for no apparent reason other than, by now, some sort of convention attributable to the dominance of the two most recent empires.

In any event, you will have a poor understanding of the world and geopolitics, past, present and future, if you get hung up on such terms whose useful life has, by now, expired.

Take a map of the globe, or better yet the Google Earth program, and spin it around, sideways, upside down, turn it every whichway, that's a much better use of your time than fussing over archaic British terminology.

Good Luck!

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Old 11-08-2010, 02:12 AM
 
Location: The western periphery of Terra Australis
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Yeah who really cares, there's no precise definition, lol.
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Old 11-08-2010, 02:16 AM
 
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Originally Posted by bale002 View Post
Middle East is a term created by the British Empire, the region between the homeland and India, then China, the Far East. Punto e basta.

The term is also used by its successor and by chance same-language empire, the United States, but for no other apparent reason.

The term is also translated into other languages, from Italian to Chinese, but for no apparent reason other than, by now, some sort of convention attributable to the dominance of the two most recent empires.

In any event, you will have a poor understanding of the world and geopolitics, past, present and future, if you get hung up on such terms whose useful life has, by now, expired.

Take a map of the globe, or better yet the Google Earth program, and spin it around, sideways, upside down, turn it every whichway, that's a much better use of your time than fussing over archaic British terminology.

Good Luck!

awesome post.

And to the OP, did you know that the first world mapmaker was an Arab/Muslim from the Moroccan region? The map had Africa in the northern hemisphere and Asia/Europe in the Southern. There is something psychological about the placement/direction of our maps, chew on that for a while.

Also, consider these words - middle east east of whom? middle of where?
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Old 11-08-2010, 05:41 AM
 
Location: Paris, France
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The Maghreb is not part of the Middle East, and many people in Algeria and Morocco do not speak Arabic -- they speak Berber, Tamazight or Tuareg. Also, 40% of the Algerian population is Kabyle, which is not at all an Arab ethnic group. Many have blond hair and blue eyes.

Using blanket terms for large chunks of the world is dangerous. Just look at the number of people who think that Iranians and Turks are Arabs just because most of them are Muslim. Confusing religions and races is inexcusable.
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