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The Sahara desert has probably been a much bigger barrier to gene flow than the mediterranean sea.
Maybe for the non-indigenous people who did not know there way around the Sahara. The native people knew there way around the desert as there were many routes that predated foreign occupation. Also people seem to forget that so called Black African countries cut right through the Sahara. Chad and Mali are some examples.
Also the Sahara desert wasn't always the giant desert it is today. So your barrier statement doesn't hold up well.
Guess we all have different opinion of what very spanish lol and i do know about the berber in Canarians and strong arab roots.
We don´t have different opinion, i was born here, i know the differents cultures and tradition of spain, you have an image and probably 70% of spaniards are not identified with it. And as i said, seems most anthropologists, geneticists etc support that the iberians didn´t came from north Africa. It´s not about deny the conexion between Spain and n. africa or another cultures, obviously exist, but better not invent the story according to our chauvinism.
Berbers are a complicated group to understand.. the people we today understand to be Berber, who speak Berber languages, are a mixture of native origin North Africans (who, going by y-dna E1b1b which is at very high rates) who came from the Horn of Africa/southern Arabian Peninsula, who then mixed with European-like elements later on (think Iberian), and eventually Arab and Sub-Saharan later. So there is no Berber race.. but some of them appear to look blacker and others whiter. Nevertheless they are not Arab.
Maybe for the non-indigenous people who did not know there way around the Sahara. The native people knew there way around the desert as there were many routes that predated foreign occupation. Also people seem to forget that so called Black African countries cut right through the Sahara. Chad and Mali are some examples.
Also the Sahara desert wasn't always the giant desert it is today. So your barrier statement doesn't hold up well.
But yet we span whiteness over 3 different continents and no one really questions that? The hypocrisy!
Sahara is generally thought to have come in quite quickly about 6000 BC. The last Saharan crocodilles were post WW2, I think.
But the facts are, there was never any happy coalition of natives traipsing back and forth across the Sahara. Any people who had environmental skills would use them as the huge defensive advantage it was. Hence, a genetic barrier.
And we don't actually spread "White" across any continents. Because people using "white", "black" etc as terms tend to be flagges as kooks. Haplogroups is the closest to that.
Anyone want to know something really cool about berbers, google "Garamandes" many with the terms "empire" and "sands"
And we don't actually spread "White" across any continents. Because people using "white", "black" etc as terms tend to be flagges as kooks. Haplogroups is the closest to that.
Are Berber people white or black or a distinct races (Berber Race)?
I really do not know, but I know some try to say that they are consider white, but the photo I have seen they look too distinct in their physical appereance than the nothern europeans.
Berber people are non-white Caucasian people - Arabic People of the Middle East and Northern Africa.
When it comes to the Berbers a lot of people seem to be misinformed. First and foremost the Berbers are Indigenous African people. Berbers are not Europeans and they are not Arab. They have had there own language and culture that predates Arab and European occupation. Like Tiger Beer said in the earlier post they often get put in a vague catch-all "Arabic" umbrella. The reason for that is that most Berbers today are Arabized due to the Arab invasions that happen around the 7th century AD. But even still, many Berbers still embrace their indigenous heritage and language.
On the topic of what race are the Berbers. It is clearly evident that they are part of the same race as the rest of the indigenous people of Africa. I know many people are going to say " How can they be black when they don't look like the average black person?" or an even more ridiculous question; "How is it possible for a "Black African" to be indigenous in Africa that is not in Sub-Saharan Africa?".
The problem with society is that we put to much emphasis on blackness when it comes to African identity. Africa spans over 6,000 miles from North to South, and it would be complete ignorance to suggest everyone in Africa is going to have the same skin complexion. When people think Black African they think only of Jet Black skin and anyone who doesn't fall into that category is somehow mixed or not a true African which is absurd. Also many people try to rely on the "Sub-Saharan" racial line divide as if that is somehow a great way to determine a racial divide between the "Black" Africans from the "Anything but Black" Africans.
Africa is Africa and if you are indigenous than you should be part of the African race. I don't know why most people in society go out of their way to refer to the Continent as "Sub-Sahara" or the even worse term "Black Africa". When applying the same rederick to other continents it sounds silly(ex. Red America, White Europe, and Yellow Asia). Also here is a link if any of you want to learn more about the Berber people.
Yes, and we all know that if you are indigenous to Asia, you are part of the "Asian" race (which spans from South Indians to Japanese to Arabs), which is of course different from the "European" race.
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and i do know about the berber in Canarians and strong arab roots. 
