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Old 11-22-2012, 11:28 AM
 
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Back in the day, students from Zimbabwe got scholarships to study in practical fields like that, as well as public administration, business admin, etc., intending to go home and run the country after "regime change". Things didn't unfold as they expected. Those who went home and failed to kiss up to Mugabe are dead now. Others fled and went abroad again, some never went home when they saw what was going on. Very sad. Tragic.
So in other words Mugabe's bad governance(undemocratic,Marxist policies) drove Zimbabwe's talent away.
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Old 11-23-2012, 10:23 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Ok but aren't you describing how things work in capitalist America? Those choices of where to work and for how much comes with capitalism.
There are only about four countries in the world that are not capitalist, none of them are in Africa. So, as a practical matter, it works everywhere.

Jesse Helms is dead. You have to learn to stop calling the USA the ONLY free country in the world.
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Old 11-23-2012, 11:18 AM
 
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There are only about four countries in the world that are not capitalist, none of them are in Africa. So, as a practical matter, it works everywhere.

Jesse Helms is dead. You have to learn to stop calling the USA the ONLY free country in the world.
Well lets say some countries are better examples of capitalism than others then. Capitalism to work well needs the enforcement of the rule of law and enforced property rights and good judicial systems. These things are weak in many African countries. So most Africa countries aren't the best examples of capitalism. Botswana is probably the best example of African capitalism then Ghana and Zambia from what I've read. Also poor infrastructure hurts African capitalism. The lack of good roads,railways and electricity hampers trade and investment on the continent.
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Old 11-23-2012, 04:04 PM
 
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Capitalism to work well needs the enforcement of the rule of law and enforced property rights and good judicial systems..
In other words, big government intervention.

In almost all global comparison scales, the US dangles down around 20th to 30th place, and in property rights and judicial systems, we are consistent.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interna...y_Rights_Index

http://www.nationmaster.com/graph/go...-contract-days

I guess maybe the USA needs bigger government intervention, to bring up our standards to anywhere near being a world leader. Probably not a good idea to hold up American Capitalism as the gold standard.

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Old 11-23-2012, 07:50 PM
 
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In other words, big government intervention.

Thats not necessarily big government. Even most libertarians think that the rule of law and property rights enforcement and other legal protections within capitalism should be gov'ts role.
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Old 11-28-2012, 03:33 PM
 
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I have a friend that moved from New York back to his homeland. He is married now with children. He started a business and from what I hear its doing quite well. I am happy to see that Africa is coming forth.
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:23 PM
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I have a friend that moved from New York back to his homeland. He is married now with children. He started a business and from what I hear its doing quite well. I am happy to see that Africa is coming forth.
Good for your friend. He is a success story, which can lead to even more. Where is he from?
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Old 11-28-2012, 09:41 PM
 
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So in other words Mugabe's bad governance(undemocratic,Marxist policies) drove Zimbabwe's talent away.
Is this news? Yes. Some of it, he killed off. Some managed to survive in-country, somehow. But overall, it's pretty grim, very sad. There was so much hope at one time. Crushed.
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