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Old 01-08-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Interesting original post. Im from NYC. My experience is completely opposite. When I walk around & smile at other African & Caribbean women...anywhere in the world...they smile back and some start asking me questions out of curiosity. When they see that I'm open, friendly & non-judgmental they're open & friendly with me.

This is before they learn my mom & dad are from the Caribbean & Africa, respectively.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:15 AM
 
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I conclude that you are trolling and this will be my last post to you. You are comparing immigrants to the local population i.e., Africans or Nigerians on average do better than the local black population. I did the same. I compared immigrants in Africa or Nigeria that do better than the local African population. If you think the less fortunate locals should show accountability because they can't measure up to the more fortunate then the same applies to the local populations everywhere in comparison to the immigrant population. Africa would be no differently. Their local population must show some accountability for not measuring up to the more fortunate immigrants. I already told you that immigrants on average tend to do better than the local population. You are comparing the more fortunate of immigrants to the less fortunate local population. Apples and Oranges or Apples to Rotten Apples. No African-American is jealous of any immigrant. Maybe you wish it was that way. African-Americans have their own success in the U.S. and abroad.
I'm not comparing anything, you're the one who is doing all the comparing. And I say this again, WHO CARES. Im not trolling just speaking the truth. The op made a post that she thinks Africans look down upon her and made an ignorant statement about African men and women. I just called her out and told her it's the opposite. You are really jealous of them. That's it. You're trying to downplay African success by saying historically immigrants do better than the native locals. Its a cop-out, excuse, defense mechanism or whatever.[/quote]


Ok,so what do you want AA to do? Meanwhile,i will tell the AA to go over to Nigeria and tell them what to do.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:20 AM
 
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Interesting original post. Im from NYC. My experience is completely opposite. When I walk around & smile at other African & Caribbean women...anywhere in the world...they smile back and some start asking me questions out of curiosity. When they see that I'm open, friendly & non-judgmental they're open & friendly with me.

This is before they learn my mom & dad are from the Caribbean & Africa, respectively.
Do you smile at american black women?

How can someone know you are non judgemental,open,and friendly by looking at you?

I didn't want to go there,but I am.

Maybe the op is light skinned,because I know many AA women that are dark skinned,and they said they have no problems with african women. They often get mistaken for African just because they are dark skinned.

Also,for what its worth,the east africans and west africans avoid each other.
The Ibo and the Yoruba woman in school avoided each other too.

So maybe its just natural human competition?
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Old 01-09-2013, 07:01 AM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Do you smile at american black women?

How can someone know you are non judgemental,open,and friendly by looking at you?

I didn't want to go there,but I am.

Maybe the op is light skinned,because I know many AA women that are dark skinned,and they said they have no problems with african women. They often get mistaken for African just because they are dark skinned.

Also,for what its worth,the east africans and west africans avoid each other.
The Ibo and the Yoruba woman in school avoided each other too.

So maybe its just natural human competition?
Honestly doubtful about that. A number of Africans are not dark-skinned but are African nonetheless. It's more about your entire appearance. I am dark and West Africans know that I am not "from" there. It's generally some East Africans, many of whom are lighter, who have asked if I am from one of their countries. Yet I have friends from Africa who are lighter than me and people know that they are African. It's not really about color.

That being said, this issue is cultural and the OP seems as though she is the one with the problem. What you have said about East and West Africans usually finding their own also shows that it is about culture, language etc. Africa is a vast continent made up of all sorts of people. No one looks at a person from China and one from India and wonders why they may hang out with their own as opposed each other since they both from Asia. So why expect that from Africans? It's natural for people to gravitate to those who have more in common with them.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:01 PM
 
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LOL Obama didn't even live near or have any meaningful association with Blacks until he was an adult. That's far from the average experience of most Black Americans. Sorry what ever tenous roots he has to Black people he obtained through Africa and his marriage to Michelle.
No Obama don't really have any ties to the Black American community other than sleeping with a few prominent black men and that's why we don't claim him as one of us. Obama never was around Africans or Kenyans either and he don't claim them. The man had to meet his father. Obama is culturally and nationally an American. He is black American before he is a black African and he is white American before he is a black African. Culturally, linguistically, nationally he is an American. He don't have any roots to the black American nation even with his marriage to Michelle and that's why we don't claim him as one of us. But good luck with trying to convince yourself he's African and Kenyan and he loves you people.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:05 PM
 
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He is African as his father is Kenyan. Stop attempting to strip Obama of ties to his country of descent. He claims his Kenyan family, and they claim him.
Obama is an American not African. His father is an African/Kenyan Obama is not. He does not claim his Kenyan family as he is not one of them. He is black first and American second and not African at all. Africans claim Obama but Obama don't claim Africans. You don't need to look outside of Africa for a hero or role model. There's plenty in Africa.
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Old 01-09-2013, 02:12 PM
 
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Exactly what actions do you consider "stinky attitude" ? Why do you assume that a whole category of people "hate" you? I mean who the heck are you anyway? I think you have convinced yourself of a stereotype and your running with it.
I think the Op is trolling and is indeed posting under several screen names. There are some people in here that's posting back and forth to themselves.
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Old 01-09-2013, 04:49 PM
 
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African Americans are American first as well. And why wouldn't they be, the USA is where they were born.

This thread is ridiculous anyway. Who is posting back and forth to themselves? If you have proof of this share it with the mods.
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Old 01-11-2013, 09:17 PM
 
Location: Caribbean
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Obama is an American not African. His father is an African/Kenyan Obama is not. He does not claim his Kenyan family as he is not one of them. He is black first and American second and not African at all. Africans claim Obama but Obama don't claim Africans. You don't need to look outside of Africa for a hero or role model. There's plenty in Africa.
Wishful thinking. Asians are called such 3 and 4 generations out of Asia. Obama is one generation removed from Africa. He is an African and Kenyan by descent. That in no way changes the fact that he is American either. It's called being multicultural.
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Old 01-11-2013, 10:29 PM
 
Location: West Coast
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No Obama don't really have any ties to the Black American community other than sleeping with a few prominent black men and that's why we don't claim him as one of us. Obama never was around Africans or Kenyans either and he don't claim them. The man had to meet his father. Obama is culturally and nationally an American. He is black American before he is a black African and he is white American before he is a black African. Culturally, linguistically, nationally he is an American. He don't have any roots to the black American nation even with his marriage to Michelle and that's why we don't claim him as one of us. But good luck with trying to convince yourself he's African and Kenyan and he loves you people.
You may want to replace the word "don't" with the word "doesn't". In addition, replace "we" with "I". Much of your post seems a bit outrageous.
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