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Old 02-08-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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This touches on the need for better property ownership documentation in Africa.




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Old 02-09-2013, 08:47 AM
 
Location: New York City
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With whatever other problems Africa might have, appears there is also a 'Land Grab'. Many people from other nations - China, India, Europe, North America...are buying up land, for agricultural purposes, to export.

Leaving less land for locals, etc. Curious how many other people know about this, and anything they might know as well. (I'm heard of it somewhat, but reading more about it recently).
Iíve worked on agricultural deals in Africa and know that there is a very vocal activist minority that intentionally misrepresents land issues for political purposes. Theyíre really opposed to foreign direct investment on principle. The actual land in question is secondary.

Most people donít realize that Africa is a net importer of food. The problem is not that they export too much, but that they produce too little. (See http://www.fao.org/docrep/015/i2497e/i2497e00.pdf) People also donít know that food prices are higher in Africa than the rest of the world because production costs are very high and transportation is abominable. Most African countries simply cannot compete with the US, Canada or Brazil for efficiency. The last thing an investor in Africa wants to do is sell on the global market. If you want to make money, sell to the local population.
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Old 08-29-2013, 11:08 AM
 
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Can't really speak of the land grabs in the rest of Africa, but can speak from first hand experience. Firstly in Zimbabwe it was about politics and accumulating votes for elections as the usual promises of free education, free medical, employment for all, never got delivered and wasn't working anymore. So the local land grab was authorized to some extent by the law turning a blind eye and allowing so called war vets (15 & 20 year olds) who were not even born during the war, to forcfully beat, murder and evict farmers who lawfully purchased land to farm and help boost Zimbabwe's economy and feed the nation. Yes our Tobacco crop is on the up and for the past six or so years the tobacco companies have taken over the job of the banks to help finance small, medium and some large scale farmers. However as far as our food crops are concerned, there isn't much happening on that front and our imports of maize and other food stuffs is basically 100% imported and subsidized by WFP.

Yes we now understand that the Chinese have come into Zimbabwe in their droves as foreign investors, we hear that some have been given land and others have purchased land, to mainly mine the land. There is talk of large mining operations that are popping up in protected wild heritage areas or national parks areas, where the law specifically states that no form of commercial mining or business can operate that may endanger the wild life or damage the enviroment.

However, these are large concerns that cannot be approached as you will be met at the gate by armed personal and refused entry. These concerns are only there because those that make the laws have struck a deal to allow them to be there. They do have a large number of Chinese employees imported from China, but understand they also do employ some locals where hard labour is concerned. In some cases I have been advised that these employees are beaten if they complain about poor salaries. The imported Chinese workers are killing wild life to subsidize their food requirements and some of the wild life being killed or poached are endangered animals.

We already have an immense problem here in Zimbabwe with poaching as it is not only the local Zimbabweans and or Chinese that are adding to the problem, but there are government officials and associates of these officials that are rounding up large numbers of various species, and either moving them around Zimbabwe to be later hunted by willing foreign hunters that have paid for the trophies or exporting Zimbabwe's animals to foreign countries for a handsome reward. In some cases there are a number of white people also involved with these government officials.

The unfortunate fact is the land grab that commenced a good eight years or so ago, has had such a major negative effect on Zimbabwe, the morals of its population (Africans, Whites and all races) that most now are just jumping on the band wagon.

Gone are the days when we used to preach what our ancestors sewed and taught all the children of Zimbabwe, what was right and what was wrong. To treat people how we wanted to be treated, not to steal, murder, slander one another, that we as people of Zimbabwe don't own what is not ours, the lands, waters and animals belong to God, and if managed correctly would be fertile and abundant for an eternity.

The land grab has had irreversible effects and we and our future generations, will all suffer from it in one way or another.

The above is written on a without prejudice basis.

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Old 09-04-2013, 07:04 PM
 
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The mentality is such that even if owned legally by an outsider, the land still belongs to the associated community.

Go try and tell a person whose ancestors have lived on the land for as long as he can remember that he isn't legally entitled to that land. He'd laugh at you.

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Old 09-04-2013, 07:14 PM
 
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Africa will soon discover that the White man was a better deal than the Chinese.
Under those parameters, don't expect any deal.
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