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Old 01-30-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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in colombia we don't even know we're supposed to be hispanic latino, colombians come to the realization they are hispanic / latino when they go to the US

other wise its a concept lost on them
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Old 01-31-2015, 11:31 AM
 
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as a northern European I don't have much knowledge on America's racial problems I know what I know because of my spainard friend. the reason people say they are European when they're not is because we are more civilized and we are better looking to people.
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Old 02-01-2015, 11:43 PM
 
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in colombia we don't even know we're supposed to be hispanic latino, colombians come to the realization they are hispanic / latino when they go to the US

other wise its a concept lost on them
There's absolutely no reason why you should take on some of the ridiculous race driven terminology the US has created.. If you want to see a good example of institutionilized racism, and how it starts, look at the US government.
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Old 02-02-2015, 01:32 AM
 
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There's absolutely no reason why you should take on some of the ridiculous race driven terminology the US has created.. If you want to see a good example of institutionilized racism, and how it starts, look at the US government.
I agree with you, in the US they take such term (Hispanic/Latino) with such seriousness, as if it was some sort of culture that goes back to thousands of years!!!

Yet when you look at the history of the term you quickly realize how superficial it is (created in the 1970's by the Richard Nixon administration during the US census to give a name to the growing Mexican population which had been classed controversially as white before, later it extended and included any citizen from any country south of the US border regardless of that person's individual family origin)

it is nothing but a stupid US made label that does not transcend into latin America.... as soon as you go to latin america you quickly realize no one feels latino hispanic there, no one identifies with such term!
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Old 02-02-2015, 03:04 AM
 
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don't be ridiculous

french african speakers are called franco-africans

spanish speaking africans are called hispanic


english speaking africans are called anglophones


don't speak for Africa, you've probably never even been there!

Spanish speaking Africans do NOT identify with Latin Americans, and folks need to just accept that fact. They are Africans who speak Spanish, and most likely a host of African languages. They are no more Hispanic than a Nigerian is Anglo Saxon.
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Old 02-02-2015, 06:08 AM
 
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Spanish speaking Africans do NOT identify with Latin Americans, and folks need to just accept that fact. They are Africans who speak Spanish, and most likely a host of African languages. They are no more Hispanic than a Nigerian is Anglo Saxon.
for the 500 millionth time.... hispanic is NOT an identity, culture, ethnicity, race, people...!!!

hispanic simply means PERSON WHO SPEAKS SPANISH!!!!

is that so hard to actually understand?

and latin americans don't give a crap about one another either.... argentinians could care less about puerto ricans, and mexicans have nothing in common with chileans etc. etc.
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Old 02-02-2015, 08:52 PM
 
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for the 500 millionth time.... hispanic is NOT an identity, culture, ethnicity, race, people...!!!

hispanic simply means PERSON WHO SPEAKS SPANISH!!!!

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So is some one who doesn't speak Spanish, but whose origin is in Latin America, Hispanic?

What about some one, whose origins aren't in Latin America or Spain, but who speaks Spanish fluently?


The term Hispanic, as it is used in the USA, assumes some generalized cultural characteristics stemming from societies which were influenced by Spanish colonial rule.

Equatorial Guinea doesn't fall into that category because the Spanish colonial influences were weak. Most will have more in common with some one from across the border in say Cameroon, than they will with any one in Latin America.

Latin America is a colonial society constructed by its Spanish colonial heritage, though clearly encompassing many cultures other than Spain.

Equatorial Guinea will be an indigenous society where the Spanish culture was a veneer that didn't penetrate the indigenous cultures of the non elite. In fact only 15% are highly competent Spanish speakers.

Equatorial Guinea is culturally integrated into the neighboring countries of Cameroon and Gabon, and has strong ties to Nigeria and Angola. In fact French and Portuguese share official language status with Spanish, and a Portuguese creole is also widely spoken. Various African languages tend to be the first language of most Guineans.

So with all of that, how can Equatorial Guineans be Hispanic? Indeed it is possible that Spanish will disappear and French and/or Portuguese will replace it, given the fact that Spanish is of minimal importance to modern day Guineans.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQ9DXDKysI


This is music from Equatorial Guinea.
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Old 02-03-2015, 02:16 AM
 
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Carbine you said it yourself!

hispanic in the USA....

the USA is not the world!

most Americans can't find their own state on a US map much less they're going to know what hispanic is, they probably think hispanic is the short brown skinned indigenous mexican people sneaking across the border, or those ghetto hood rat puerto rican and dominican mulattos from the bronx!

Hispanic merely means "a person who can speak spanish!" regardless of origins, even philipinos account as hispanics (the ones that speak spanish)
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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I have a Spanish friend from north west Spain ( when I went to that area because of I wanted to see how they looked like compared to the others so called Spaniards) which is totally different from the Spaniards of southern Spain. north east speak Catalan and are related to Latin Italians meaning Italians are Latinos not the slaves of the Spaniards that they conquered in the new world . north west speak a Gaelic language because they are Celtic and they didn't leave Spain and the Basque also are from northern Spain and speak Basque. Spaniards from northern Spain speak a different language and they are the ones that are central European looking like south polish people and south Germans and south western Irish. these people never left Spain but southern Spaniards did and other eastern coastal Spaniards but also some Barcelonans did leave but was people from Barcelona not the real latins who live in the hilsl right behind Barcelona. southern spain was conquered by arabs and when spain got it back they wanted to get rid of them so they made them go the the conquered lands while the generals were white spainards and the arabs had children with the nativs and arabs thought of themselves has Spanish. dna studies show the Indians which is what Columbus called you guys which is the equivalent to the N word trace there lineage to middle east, the new world, north Africa and southern spainards still existing since the inquisition basically the ones who converted to catholism.

my friend told me this because he is a gaelic spainard and it angers him that people don't know northern spainrds are totally different people while southern and south central spain are the ones people tend to refer to as Spanish when him they are late arrivals from Italy Greece and north Africa not from Germany france or native spainrds because migration pattern show that that's how spain was population by hunters and gathers from south east Europe to north and then into spain and that's why northern spainards look central European.


eastern euros are Slavic. Germanic countries are Germanic(which I am because Norwegians and celts went to Iceland., celtic countries celtic and south Europe is latin and south eastern are Slavic and Mediterranean.


these terms is only used in usa to classify the mexicans but we don´t use that term in spain, it is a mistake from usa goverment and stupid , we call mexicans mexicans, colombian colombians.........like the rest of the world, we see people of south américa like inmigrants, foreigns, aliens....... with their culture, own music ,food,.race., .......we are very very different, even the language is very different, sometimes i don´t understand it and sometimes southamérica films must be subtitle because we don´t understand.

i see we have the same relationships with our former colonies like france do with their former colonies or, Portugal do with theirs[/quote]


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Gaelic is Irish, Scottish and Manx. They are insular Celtic languages and were never spoken in Spain. The other Celtic languages are Brythonic and these are Welsh and Breton. In Galicia they speak a language related to Portuguese from what I've heard and it is a Latin language they definitely don't speak a Celtic language like Gaelic.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goidelic_languages

Modern Galician is part of the West Iberian languages group, a family of Romance languages that includes the Portuguese language, which developed locally from Vulgar Latin and evolved into what modern scholars have called Medieval Galician or Galician-Portuguese.

Galician language - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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Old 02-05-2015, 12:37 PM
 
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Of course, Galician is a Romance language older than Castilian.
Celtic languages passed way in Spain 2000 years ago.

Galicia and Asturias received a large number of Britons fleeing from England during the fourth and fifth centuries, their language survived centuries and their Celtic Catholic Rite still exists in Mondoñedo.

They do celebrate Celtic festivities in Bretoña (comes from Bretaña)..Lugdum, etc, but I believe they do it more for tourism.

But not much info about western Celtic, there were many different Celtic languages in Spain, and there was the Celtic-Iberian, a Celtic language written with the Iberian alphabet (Greek inspired).

Not much information about the Iberian language either, not Indoeuropean it seems.
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