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Old 12-30-2016, 04:58 AM
 
Location: Viña del Mar, Chile
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How does a thread so stupid get 28 pages?
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Old 01-04-2017, 12:20 PM
 
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No, Portuguese in Angola is the native language. The majority of the poor in Angolga only speak Portuguese. And their variety of Portuguese is very European sounding, much more so than the Portuguese that Brazilians speak.


Put an Angolan next to a Portuguese and you will quickly learn that these are very different peoples. The Portuguese will have more in common with a French person than they will with an Angolan.


In any case this was about Equatorial Guinea. French is also considered to be an official language, and the indigenous languages of that nation are alive and well.
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Old 01-08-2017, 06:01 PM
 
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Put an Angolan next to a Portuguese and you will quickly learn that these are very different peoples. The Portuguese will have more in common with a French person than they will with an Angolan.
Nonsense. They speak exactly the same language. The Portuguese are all over Angola now, they're coming back in droves to take advantage of the high salaries and new opportunities. They aren't even viewed as foreigners like other Europeans are.

A portuguese person would not be able communicate at all with a French person.
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Old 01-09-2017, 01:18 PM
 
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Nonsense. They speak exactly the same language. The Portuguese are all over Angola now, they're coming back in droves to take advantage of the high salaries and new opportunities. They aren't even viewed as foreigners like other Europeans are.

A portuguese person would not be able communicate at all with a French person.
I don't agree with your post. Though Portuguese is still the official language in Angola, their proficiency varies greatly from one person to another but most the time you can tell it is not their first language. Portuguese was mainly kept, ironically, as way to unify the country after its independence because Angola is home to many different ethnic groups speaking different languages. Many Angolans speak Kibondo.
While there are some Portuguese in Angola, they are considered foreigners there and need a work visa and not always welcome. There are also many Angolans in Portugal where they also considered foreigners and require a visa.
When I visited Angola I knew it was a former Portuguese colony. However, I was amazed at how much Angolan culture and way of life, aside from a few relics, was typically African and had nothing to do with Portugal. This is especially true outside of Luanda. Sure there is still a historical and a political link, but that is more out of political interest than anything else.
As a rule of thumb, the closer 2 cultures are, the closer they are. In spite of history, a Portuguese person is incredibly closer to a French than to an Angolan. Just see how a Portuguese and a French small town compare to an Angolan one and you will see what I mean.

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Old 01-10-2017, 06:39 AM
 
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You guys have to know that ‘’Spanic’’ is something from USA and don’t make sense out USA.
When immigrants are in an alien culture, and they don’t are people supper-educated that know previously the language and fit well and easily in any culture is normal they try get together their compatriots or at least people with equal or similar language and culture. Humans need live in society and language is the most important tool of communication.
In this context was created this Spanic identity in USA and I heard include Brazilians in USA that is a more recent phenomenon started in 90 years mixed in both Portuguese neighborhood and Spanish neighborhood and after created their own in Boston for example. So how you see first Brazilians looking for the most similar cultures when in small numbers.
Out USA each country is a country and nobody cares about be Latin or be Spanic anyone just care about their own nationality or region.
In Sao Paulo we have a similar phenomenon immigrants from Northeastern Brazil identify themselves as only ‘’nordestinos’’ instead the state they are from and people from neighbor countries like Peru and Bolivia identify themselves as only ‘’andinos’’.
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Old 01-10-2017, 09:49 AM
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You guys have to know that ‘’Spanic’’ is something from USA and don’t make sense out USA.
When immigrants are in an alien culture, and they don’t are people supper-educated that know previously the language and fit well and easily in any culture is normal they try get together their compatriots or at least people with equal or similar language and culture. Humans need live in society and language is the most important tool of communication.
In this context was created this Spanic identity in USA and I heard include Brazilians in USA that is a more recent phenomenon started in 90 years mixed in both Portuguese neighborhood and Spanish neighborhood and after created their own in Boston for example. So how you see first Brazilians looking for the most similar cultures when in small numbers.
Out USA each country is a country and nobody cares about be Latin or be Spanic anyone just care about their own nationality or region.
In Sao Paulo we have a similar phenomenon immigrants from Northeastern Brazil identify themselves as only ‘’nordestinos’’ instead the state they are from and people from neighbor countries like Peru and Bolivia identify themselves as only ‘’andinos’’.
Sadly some "Lusitanics"(Lol another one of those crazy classifications) are embracing this Hispanic classification on a superficial level(It's BS) in the Silicon valley to more effectively plug into the "Hispanic" business network. It's not so easy to plug into the "Anglo Saxon" upper echelon if you don't "look act and talk like a one of them(you pretty much have to distance yourself from your roots to fit in).
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Old 01-10-2017, 11:16 AM
 
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Sadly some "Lusitanics"(Lol another one of those crazy classifications) are embracing this Hispanic classification on a superficial level(It's BS) in the Silicon valley to more effectively plug into the "Hispanic" business network. It's not so easy to plug into the "Anglo Saxon" upper echelon if you don't "look act and talk like a one of them(you pretty much have to distance yourself from your roots to fit in).
Crazy how anglo countries care so much about ‘’races’’
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:40 AM
 
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This thread only exist because of American's stupid idea of what a hispanic person is

Person first language is Spanish = That person is hispanic
Nothing else to say
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Old 01-11-2017, 11:51 AM
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This thread only exist because of American's stupid idea of what a hispanic person is

Person first language is Spanish = That person is hispanic
Nothing else to say
You can thank the NCLR - National Council of La Raza for this stupidity.
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Old 01-14-2017, 05:15 PM
 
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How does a thread so stupid get 28 pages?
As you put it on its 28th page
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