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Old 07-29-2013, 02:11 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Spanish does represent imperialism, colonialism, and oppression from Spain of course, but the USA didn't have to wipe it out of being an official language. The USA did that to Guam and the Samoa islands.

USA did it to many lands that were not originally part of the USA.

Spanish should remain. Lots of cultures and traditions of Phillipines were lost or hidden or shunned or swept under the rug.

Phillipines should make Spanish an official language again. Many people still speak Fillipino Spanish.
Why didn't this happen with Puerto Rico then? Not that I have a problem with Spanish being an official language of the Philippines. It just seems odd that one of the territories the US kept still uses Spanish.
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Old 07-29-2013, 02:18 PM
 
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The Spanish language flourished in the first two decades of the 20th century due to the partial freedom of the press and as an act of defiance against the new rulers. Spanish declined due to the imposition of English as the official language and medium of instruction in schools and universities.[7][8] The American administration increasingly forced editorials and newspapers to switch to English, leaving Spanish in a marginal position, so that Enrique Zóbel de Ayala founded the Academia Filipina de la Lengua Espańola and the Premio Zóbel in 1924 to help maintain and develop the use of Spanish among the Filipino people.
The Americans propagated the Black Legend in Philippine history to the detriment of Spanish language and Hispanic culture. Neither did it help when some Filipino nationalists and nationalist historiographers during the American Colonial Period who took their liberal ideas from the writings of the 19th century Filipino Propaganda which portrayed Spain and all things Spanish as negative or evil. Therefore, Spanish as a language was demonized as a sad reminder of the past.[49] These ideas gradually inculcated into the minds of the young generation of Filipinos (during and after the American administration) who used those history textbooks at school that tended to generalize all Spaniards as villains due to lack of emphasis on Filipino people of Spanish ancestry who were also against the local Spanish government and clergy and also fought and died for the sake of freedom during the 19th century revolts, during the Philippine Revolution, during the Philippine–American War and during World War II
Spanish language in the Philippines - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:41 PM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Both the Spanish and the English were foreign influences on the Filipino culture. Both should be seen as that. I agree with the other poster in that the Spanish language/culture does seem like it gets a pass when it comes to being recognized as a foreign influence on the country. Your making it seem like Spanish culture originated out of the Philippines.
Filipinos have adopted a lot of the Spanish culture including religion, religious festivities and behaviour. Our fiestas and different religious festivities may be originally Spanish but we have absorbed these festivities into our culture so easily that we do not even think it is foreign any more. Same thing with the 6,000 Spanish words we have included in our Filipino vocabulary. Most people do not even know they are using Spanish words because they sound almost the same as Filipino words. Spanish just blends so well the Filipino language unlike English words that would really sound very foreign when mixed with Filipino language.
Same thing with food, Caldereta, Mechado, Afritada, Menudo and all tomato based stews as well as Filipino's favourite dessert Leche Flan and favourite pastries Polvoron, bizcocho, Ensaimada, Yemas, Barquillos etc. do not really seem foreign ( Spanish ) to us any more that most people do really think these are really Filipino... It is not the same as Hamburger and fries that really seem foreign ( American ) to us.

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Old 07-29-2013, 08:50 PM
 
Location: San Diego, California Republic
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Filipinos have adopted a lot of the Spanish culture including religion, religious festivities and behaviour. Our fiestas and different religious festivities may be originally Spanish but we have absorbed these festivities into our culture so easily that we do not even think it is foreign any more. Same thing with the 6,000 Spanish words we have included in our Filipino vocabulary. Most people do not even know they are using Spanish words because they sound almost the same as Filipino words. Spanish just blends so well the Filipino language unlike English words that would really sound very foreign when mixed with Filipino language.
This is true with the languages. Both Mexicans and Filipinos comment on how the two languages can often fit together so easily. The Filipino language has even adopted a sentence structure very similar to Spanish.
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Old 07-29-2013, 08:52 PM
 
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Filipinos have adopted a lot of the Spanish culture including religion, religious festivities and behaviour. Our fiestas and different religious festivities may be originally Spanish but we have absorbed these festivities into our culture so easily that we do not even think it is foreign any more. Same thing with the 6,000 Spanish words we have included in our Filipino vocabulary. Most people do not even know they are using Spanish words because they sound almost the same as Filipino words. Spanish just blends so well the Filipino language unlike English words that would really sound very foreign when mixed with Filipino language.
Same thing with food, Caldereta, Mechado, Afritada, Menudo and all tomato based stews as well as Filipino's favourite dessert Leche Flan and favourite pastries Polvoron, bizcocho, Ensaimada, Yemas, Barquillos etc. do not really seem foreign ( Spanish ) to us any more that most people do really think these are really Filipino... It is not the same as Hamburger and fries that really seem foreign ( American ) to us.
Menudo is one more similarity to Mexico.
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Old 07-30-2013, 02:41 AM
 
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Menudo is one more similarity to Mexico.
Philippines - Mexico Connection





Famous Mexican that has mixed Filipino descent is The Gomez-Maganda family

Alejandro Gomez Maganda


Guadalupe Gomez Maganda

Other Mexican of Filipino descent found in Guerrero, Mexico



You'll see a municipality in Pampanga with the name MEXICO


Also Notice some Kapampangan do the same Semana Santa rituals like in Taxco Mexico
Well I read that a lot of Mexican did settled in Pampanga. You can also found the Filipino version of the Mexican Tamales in Pampanga.



Champorado is also one of the Mexican food that was shared to Filipino and we shared 'Kinilaw' and 'Tuba' to Mexicans.



Semana Santa en Taxco 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Taxco Mexico


Semana Santa 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Pampanga, Philippines

^Not all Catholics from Mexico and Philippines do this practices but I don't know where its origin lol but
you'll both found part of Mexico and Philippines. Muslim do the same practice and they called it Ashura and Muharam.
So I don't know who started it lol.

And Bicolano and other Filipino used a Mexican outfit at the tune of 'Pastores a Belen'



Mga Anak ni Inang Daigdig - Pastores Talisay (Bicol) - YouTube






Other similarities

Kapuso Mo Jessica Soho (trip to Mexico) part 5 - YouTube

- One of the favorite sport is Boxing
- Telenovela & Teleserye

Philippines became province of Mexico or it used to be Nueva Espana before.

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Old 07-30-2013, 10:33 AM
 
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Philippines - Mexico Connection





Famous Mexican that has mixed Filipino descent is The Gomez-Maganda family

Alejandro Gomez Maganda


Guadalupe Gomez Maganda

Other Mexican of Filipino descent found in Guerrero, Mexico



You'll see a municipality in Pampanga with the name MEXICO


Also Notice some Kapampangan do the same Semana Santa rituals like in Taxco Mexico
Well I read that a lot of Mexican did settled in Pampanga. You can also found the Filipino version of the Mexican Tamales in Pampanga.



Champorado is also one of the Mexican food that was shared to Filipino and we shared 'Kinilaw' and 'Tuba' to Mexicans.



Semana Santa en Taxco 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Taxco Mexico


Semana Santa 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Pampanga, Philippines

^Not all Catholics from Mexico and Philippines do this practices but I don't know where its origin lol but
you'll both found part of Mexico and Philippines. Muslim do the same practice and they called it Ashura and Muharam.
So I don't know who started it lol.

And Bicolano and other Filipino used a Mexican outfit at the tune of 'Pastores a Belen'



Mga Anak ni Inang Daigdig - Pastores Talisay (Bicol) - YouTube






Other similarities

Kapuso Mo Jessica Soho (trip to Mexico) part 5 - YouTube

- One of the favorite sport is Boxing
- Telenovela & Teleserye

Philippines became province of Mexico or it used to be Nueva Espana before.
Mexicans and Filipinos seem to have more in common with one another than either do with other Hispanics.

In the picture with the traditional dress, the girl at the bottom center looks a lot like a Mexican girl I know. Many Mexicans have a slight Asian look to them even though they are not aware of any relatives in their recent families.
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Old 08-02-2013, 12:24 PM
 
Location: Czech Republic
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Philippines - Mexico Connection





Famous Mexican that has mixed Filipino descent is The Gomez-Maganda family

Alejandro Gomez Maganda


Guadalupe Gomez Maganda

Other Mexican of Filipino descent found in Guerrero, Mexico



You'll see a municipality in Pampanga with the name MEXICO


Also Notice some Kapampangan do the same Semana Santa rituals like in Taxco Mexico
Well I read that a lot of Mexican did settled in Pampanga. You can also found the Filipino version of the Mexican Tamales in Pampanga.



Champorado is also one of the Mexican food that was shared to Filipino and we shared 'Kinilaw' and 'Tuba' to Mexicans.



Semana Santa en Taxco 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Taxco Mexico


Semana Santa 2012 - YouTube
Semana Santa in Pampanga, Philippines

^Not all Catholics from Mexico and Philippines do this practices but I don't know where its origin lol but
you'll both found part of Mexico and Philippines. Muslim do the same practice and they called it Ashura and Muharam.
So I don't know who started it lol.

And Bicolano and other Filipino used a Mexican outfit at the tune of 'Pastores a Belen'



Mga Anak ni Inang Daigdig - Pastores Talisay (Bicol) - YouTube






Other similarities

Kapuso Mo Jessica Soho (trip to Mexico) part 5 - YouTube

- One of the favorite sport is Boxing
- Telenovela & Teleserye

Philippines became province of Mexico or it used to be Nueva Espana before.
The Municipality is even painted in green Lol

The Bicol Costumes are very similar to Mexican clothing even the sombreros. Mexican girls really wear these dresses. Filipinos and Mexicans really do have some similarities.
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Old 08-02-2013, 02:40 PM
 
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Filipinos have adopted a lot of the Spanish culture including religion, religious festivities and behaviour. Our fiestas and different religious festivities may be originally Spanish but we have absorbed these festivities into our culture so easily that we do not even think it is foreign any more. Same thing with the 6,000 Spanish words we have included in our Filipino vocabulary. Most people do not even know they are using Spanish words because they sound almost the same as Filipino words. Spanish just blends so well the Filipino language unlike English words that would really sound very foreign when mixed with Filipino language.
Same thing with food, Caldereta, Mechado, Afritada, Menudo and all tomato based stews as well as Filipino's favourite dessert Leche Flan and favourite pastries Polvoron, bizcocho, Ensaimada, Yemas, Barquillos etc. do not really seem foreign ( Spanish ) to us any more that most people do really think these are really Filipino... It is not the same as Hamburger and fries that really seem foreign ( American ) to us.
Spanish based creole languages are also spoken in the Phillipines. Chavacano is one of them (if I spelled it right)

Many Spanish words have been mixed in or Spanish words and traditional Fillipino languages and some new mixed words over time were created
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Old 09-04-2013, 08:17 PM
 
Location: Filipinas
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The Municipality is even painted in green Lol

The Bicol Costumes are very similar to Mexican clothing even the sombreros. Mexican girls really wear these dresses. Filipinos and Mexicans really do have some similarities.
lol Another similarities

Agua Fresca (Mexico)



Mexican (Tuba)


Palamig (Philippines)



Filipino (Tuba) or we call now as Lambanog





I guess Mexican has Tequilla lol & We got Lambanog. I saw one Mexican dance with glass on top of their head which is similar to Pandanggo sa Ilaw lol.



La Bruja (Mexican)



Pandanggo sa Ilaw (Filipino Dance)
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