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Old 08-18-2013, 05:12 PM
 
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you sound like a typical african-american, you people think everything that occurs in the world is because of white people. You simply can't fathom that non-white people can do anything of value. Believe it or not white folks are not omnipresent. Whatever dealings modern singapore has with europe, america or australia it is on its terms

as for israel it is developed because of this little thing called iq and a determination to build a successful country.
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Old 08-18-2013, 05:13 PM
 
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So basically African leaders are easily corrupted by Europeans to thwart the development of their own countries. The world is a giant game theory and Africans simply aren't equipped to play the game evidently.
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Old 08-18-2013, 08:25 PM
 
Location: Striving for Avalon
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Sounds like more excuses. Can you provide demonstrative evidence of African intellectual ability to counter the very real empirical evidence that on average Africans have lower IQs than East Asians and Europeans?

I love how folks love to cite this excuse or that but never offer proof to refute the initial charge.
IQ is a highly subjective and contested measurement.

But again, this is a wasted discussion on those convinced that sub-Saharan Africans are born intellectually inferior.
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Old 08-19-2013, 11:21 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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For all of your cleansing/distancing yourself from accusations of racism (in a Pilate-esque manner), this still reeks of the colonial attitude that "the unfortunate Negro imbeciles need our benevolent white governance & Providence." And your talk of differing "intellectualities" translates into "Whites and Asians build civilisations. Blacks are incapable spear chuckers." This is basically what you're trying to sell. I won't buy it.:
Don't be silly. This thread is about how African nations can emulate western economic and industrial successes. Well, by emulating them, of course. Which means by following the western example to the western result, which will come about only with a certain re-education.

Whites and Asians built the modern day civilizations (such as Singapore) which is the clearly stated goal of the OP.
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Singapore . . . has achieved staggering economic success i . . . yet Africa would need to learn from Singapore example.
Left to their own devices, I don't see them building 21st century "white and Asian" civilizations like Singapore, which is the goal expressed by the OP..

Personally, I'm perfectly happy to see African nations prosper in ways different from Singapore. However, the USA would bomb them to hell and back if they tried, as we did with the Socialist world and Iraq and Afghanistan.

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Old 08-20-2013, 05:45 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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Don't be silly. This thread is about how African nations can emulate western economic and industrial successes. Well, by emulating them, of course. Which means by following the western example to the western result, which will come about only with a certain re-education.

Whites and Asians built the modern day civilizations (such as Singapore) which is the clearly stated goal of the OP.
To wit:



Left to their own devices, I don't see them building 21st century "white and Asian" civilizations like Singapore, which is the goal expressed by the OP..

Personally, I'm perfectly happy to see African nations prosper in ways different from Singapore. However, the USA would bomb them to hell and back if they tried, as we did with the Socialist world and Iraq and Afghanistan.
You cannot prosper with socialism at best you can maintain living standards. If African countries adopt socialism they'd just be maintaining a rudimentary standard of living at best.
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Old 08-20-2013, 05:46 PM
 
Location: Maryland
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IQ is a highly subjective and contested measurement.

But again, this is a wasted discussion on those convinced that sub-Saharan Africans are born intellectually inferior.
Born intellectually inferior? Not sure about that probably due to environmental factors such as African cultures not putting a premium on intellectual pursuits.
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Old 08-20-2013, 10:44 PM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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You cannot prosper with socialism at best you can maintain living standards. If African countries adopt socialism they'd just be maintaining a rudimentary standard of living at best.
You brought up socialism, not me. So, can we conclude that the only reason you entered into this thread is so you can get out all your anti-socialist dogma and force the discussion into all-or-nothing North Korea vs. Ayn Rand platitudes? Not interested. Good bye.
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