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Old 09-15-2013, 07:20 AM
 
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A. So the scripts are not "ancient", in that they do not predate exposure to the culture, technology and philosophy of an external influence in historical times. The Sumerians reached the same astronomical conclusions, and wrote them down, before 4000 BCE. Long before Timbuktu, this was suspected on every continent. There was nothing unique about Africans hypothesizing thousands of years later that the earth revolved around the sun.

B. I never presented my proposition as proof or evidence of any thesis. I said "maybe not human", and now you demand that I prove that it was indisputably non-human. YOU said it was proof. And these two Erich von Daniken Discovery Channel conjectures are the only things you have, to "prove" an entire thisis that African culture in ancient times was comparable to Sumerian, Indian, Chinese, European, Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Andean, etcetcetc.
Jtur88, is Egypt in Africa? Are ancient Egyptians considered Black Africans to you?
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Old 09-15-2013, 10:09 AM
 
Location: Victoria TX
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Jtur88, is Egypt in Africa? Are ancient Egyptians considered Black Africans to you?
Yes.
No.

Are Arabia and China both in Asia? Do you consider Arabs to be Chinese?
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Old 09-15-2013, 11:30 AM
 
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Yes.
No.

Are Arabia and China both in Asia? Do you consider Arabs to be Chinese?
Ok, fair enough. Would you agree that the Ancient Egyptians were Africans (as in from Africa) if not black? Just like Berbers are from Africa, but not black.

Yes Arabia and China are both in Asia. And I consider Arabs to be Arabs, and Chinese to be Chinese.

And I guess you consider Ancient Egyptians to be Ancient Egyptians, and Black Africans to be Black Africans.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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And I guess you consider Ancient Egyptians to be Ancient Egyptians, and Black Africans to be Black Africans.
Whether they are Black or not, it doesn't make the Ancient Egyptians any less African than other ethnic groups on the continent.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:36 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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Yes.
No.

Are Arabia and China both in Asia? Do you consider Arabs to be Chinese?
Arabs aren't considered a race like Black Africans are.
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Old 09-15-2013, 01:51 PM
 
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Arabs aren't considered a race like Black Africans are.
Arabs isn't a race anyway; it's more of a culture. If you follow some basic customs of Arabs, and you speak the Arabic language, then you're Arab.

There are Arab people which we in America would call "white" by their look, there are Arab people which we in America would call "black" by their look. Then there is the "sterotypical" Arab phenotype (i.e. Saddam Hussein, Osama Bin Laden).
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:41 PM
 
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Arabs aren't considered a race like Black Africans are.
I bet if I took the trouble to search, I'd find you saying that race is a myth, there is no such thing as race, and rejecting the old Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid differentiation. If not you, then plenty of other people on this forum.
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Old 09-15-2013, 03:45 PM
 
Location: southern california
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pre colonial history is not hard to come by
Africa fell short of Disneyland b4 the European colonial period
but fewer people to blame it on
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Old 09-15-2013, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Allendale MI
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Egypt was full of brown and black people end of story.
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Old 09-15-2013, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Vineland, NJ
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I bet if I took the trouble to search, I'd find you saying that race is a myth, there is no such thing as race, and rejecting the old Caucasoid-Negroid-Mongoloid differentiation. If not you, then plenty of other people on this forum.
I'm just going by the general Western perspective on race. I never said I agreed with it.
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