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Old 10-04-2018, 08:00 PM
 
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I previously posted in this thread links to research finding that children raised by married parents are better off for/in life than children raised by a single parent. That's THE research I was referring to if you want to go back and read it.
Let us look at it another way. People from better economic circumstances are more likely to have stable marriages, lower divorce and less out of wedlock births. We are seeing increasing levels of pathology among the white working class as many are being pushed into lower paying jobs or are leaving the labor force. As the economic circumstances of blacks deteriorated in the late 50s with the deindustrialization of inner cities social pathologies increased among the lower income populations.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:14 PM
 
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That's not the research. A child with two married parents living in an extremely impoverished community is likely not to do well, while the child of a single parent in a well off community is likely to do well.

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What the conservatives failed to note as that after 1960 poverty among blacks declined, educational outcomes improved and a significant black middle class emerged. The mere fact of being born out of wedlock doesn't damn one to failure. In fact many supposed out of wedlock kids live in homes with two parents, just not legally married. And others are in touch with both parents living not unlike kids from a divorce minus the baggage and rage.
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Old 10-04-2018, 08:42 PM
 
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Among young Americans substance abuse (drugs, liquor and cigarettes) is higher among whites than among blacks. As the condition of many lower middle class whites deteriorates so too does the incidence of divorce and out of wedlock births. Rather than pretend as if this phenomenon among black Americans is cultural note that its increasing among Hispanics and also among lower middle and poorer whites.

Parts of the Appalachia are now like inner city ghettoes in the nature of social dysfunction. But as with drug abuse the whites will be seen as "victims" while the blacks are seen as degenerates.
Overdosing and direct suicide have lowered the life expectancy among white Americans, due to the deteriorating conditions in places like Appalachia and Oklahoma. And no, Trump has made no change in their condition and will not.
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Old 10-05-2018, 09:28 AM
 
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Overdosing and direct suicide have lowered the life expectancy among white Americans, due to the deteriorating conditions in places like Appalachia and Oklahoma. And no, Trump has made no change in their condition and will not.
Honestly, though, what can one do to fight opioid addiction? It is a killer addiction.
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Old 10-18-2018, 04:09 AM
 
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Overdosing and direct suicide have lowered the life expectancy among white Americans, due to the deteriorating conditions in places like Appalachia and Oklahoma. And no, Trump has made no change in their condition and will not.
And now fewer than 50% of working class whites are getting married. Given that most will probably have kids, and the divorce rate is also increasing this means that an increasing % of white working class kids will grow up WITHOUT living in a home with both parents.


So apparently the issues of the black population was the canary in the coal mine. Turns out that it wasn't a specific cultural "defect" of black culture after all. But a reaction to a declining economic situation.

Trump revels in their ignorance.
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Old 10-18-2018, 04:11 AM
 
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Honestly, though, what can one do to fight opioid addiction? It is a killer addiction.
People have to learn how to love themselves. We all know that addiction is bad so it takes a special kind of self hate to indulge in this. If someone wishes to destroy themselves there isnt much that can be done if this behavior isnt cured before age 30.
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Old 10-20-2018, 04:30 AM
 
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People have to learn how to love themselves. We all know that addiction is bad so it takes a special kind of self hate to indulge in this. If someone wishes to destroy themselves there isnt much that can be done if this behavior isnt cured before age 30.
People quit or moderate substance abuse at all ages.

Substance abuse also exists in many forms, people get various prescription drugs to deal with stress, anxiety, pain, or mental illness.

Or they want to be more alert and drink coffee, which is a drug. So is alcohol.
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Old 10-20-2018, 09:38 AM
 
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Back on topic, (see the thread "YouTubers in Africa"). There is a young AA Millennial who has an interesting You Tube
channel "Search for Uhuru". He has loads of videos of his travels to various African countries and covers various topics
African and AA.

His approach is not so much in the militant Black Power mode of the 60s of people who claim to be "African" and don't
have a clue. He goes to Africa himself to find out what is going on and dives into to the culture head-on and asks people
lots of questions about their cultures. He makes a point to go to remote villages and towns where very few or no Westerners
rarely go (maybe Peace Corps people).

He interviews Traditional rulers, fetish priests, villagers, attends Traditional ceremonies etc. He seems to have developed a network of African friends who serve or refer him to local guides to these places. I was surprised that he was able to handle
Nigeria and was interviewing an AA who had live there for 30 years establishing a business. In one video, he was in the town of Oyo, Nigeria.

He seems to have a realistic pragmatic approach to Africa rather than a romantic one. He also dosen't hesitate to call out
Africans on their BS (he does it in a respectful manner). He also calls out AAs on their BS also. He asked a question about
some Africans posing as Traditional priests conning Westerners out of money with traditional rituals as they were interested
in the Traditional religions.

I find his channel very educational and realistic about Africa. What I find interesting are AAs who have been living in various
African countries for 30 years or more who are not necessarily Afrocentric and have adjusted to the culture and just go on
about their lives there, they seem to be an invisible group.
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Old 10-20-2018, 10:09 AM
 
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One of my good friends from high school lived in Kenya for a few years, and was received very, very well by the locals. He even hosted a travel show on local TV there...they say there is tension between AAs and Africans, but I cant imagine AAs putting in the effort to relocate to Africa and not taking cues on how to adapt and flourish there.

I believe its Ghana that now makes it super easy for AAs to get visas to live there? The connection is recognized.
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Old 10-20-2018, 08:05 PM
 
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The AA guy in the above post is now calling out Africans who criticize him for always going to the "BUSH" who accuse him of
showing only the "primitive" side of Africa thus continuing the stereotype of Africa as primitive. They say he should show the
modern developed cities.

He says most of the modern things are not being owned by Africans, but Expat Whites, Chinese, Indians and Lebanese...he
asks Do Africans own any of the 5 Star Hotels? He said if he wanted to experience modern conveniences, he would have
stayed in the U.S.

He then called out the African pastors who say the Traditionalists are going to Hell, but secretly go to them on the slde to
to use magic to increase their membership...That channel is very interesting.
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