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Old 04-18-2018, 10:28 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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The most racist people often have the lowest IQs. A LOW IQ person may have extremely difficulty comprehending that a person can complain about racism while doing everything they can to move up socioeconomically. Rush Limbaugh and the like offer simple solutions to simpletons!
Rush Limbaugh and the like can simply point to the statistics to justify their prejudice and racist attitudes.

And there's nothing we can do about it until we, the black community, change those statistics.

The worse part of these statistics are not that it's solid evidence of the regression and lack of progress we've made. The worse part is that the statistics confirm the stereotypes we are trying to avoid, further hurting the motivation and hope of those who are trying to better themselves.

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Stereotype threat is a situational predicament in which people are or feel themselves to be at risk of conforming to stereotypes about their social group. Since its introduction into the academic literature, stereotype threat has become one of the most widely studied topics in the field of social psychology.

Stereotype threat has been shown to reduce the performance of individuals who belong to negatively stereotyped groups. If negative stereotypes are present regarding a specific group, group members are likely to become anxious about their performance, which may hinder their ability to perform at their maximum level. Importantly, the individual does not need to subscribe to the stereotype for it to be activated. It is hypothesized that the mechanism through which anxiety (induced by the activation of the stereotype) decreases performance is by depleting working memory (especially the phonological aspects of the working memory system).
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Stereotype threat is a potential contributing factor to long-standing racial and gender gaps in academic performance. It may occur whenever an individual's performance might confirm a negative stereotype because stereotype threat is thought to arise from a particular situation, rather than from an individual's personality traits or characteristics.

Situational factors that increase stereotype threat can include the difficulty of the task, the belief that the task measures their abilities, and the relevance of the stereotype to the task. Individuals show higher degrees of stereotype threat on tasks they wish to perform well on and when they identify strongly with the stereotyped group.

These effects are also increased when they expect discrimination due to their identification with a negatively stereotyped group. Repeated experiences of stereotype threat can lead to a vicious circle of diminished confidence, poor performance, and loss of interest in the relevant area of achievement.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereotype_threat
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:39 PM
 
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TThe message from other races to blacks has been very clear: Blacks are on their own.

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Funny thing is that I don't know too many middle or poor blacks who are expecting whites to pay their bills. They go out to work every day. I don't see them marching to the white suburbs with begging bowls.
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Old 04-18-2018, 10:53 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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Funny thing is that I don't know too many middle or poor blacks who are expecting whites to pay their bills. They go out to work every day. I don't see them marching to the white suburbs with begging bowls.
The percentage of blacks on welfare say otherwise. Do you think personal anecdotes trump national statistics?

We are 13% of the US population but we represent 39% of welfare recipients.

Whites are 16%
Hispanics 21%
Asians 18%.

https://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Let me guess your response, the statistics are racist?

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Old 04-18-2018, 11:57 PM
 
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The percentage of blacks on welfare say otherwise. Do you think personal anecdotes trump national statistics?

We are 13% of the US population but we represent 39% of welfare recipients.

Whites are 16%
Hispanics 21%
Asians 18%.

https://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Let me guess your response, the statistics are racist?
The government funds welfare, but ALL WORKING people, and that includes Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians are paying taxes for US citizens to collect welfare.

And all Americans collect welfare at some point. Social security is welfare. So is medicare. It is being paid for by working people. Unemployment is another government program Americans of any race used when they've been fired. Poor and middle class people of all races get financial aid in the form of grants or student loans.

Veterans of all races get free medical care, the government pays their college education, gives them subsidized mortgages, among other government benefits. If they were injured while in service they get decent pensions from the military.

The stats aren't racist. The stats are extremely dishonest, because ALL AMERICANS at some point benefit from the welfare state. As a man who is a veteran, you should know that yourself because you are benefitting from welfare yourself.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:19 AM
 
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The percentage of blacks on welfare say otherwise. Do you think personal anecdotes trump national statistics?

We are 13% of the US population but we represent 39% of welfare recipients.

Whites are 16%
Hispanics 21%
Asians 18%.

https://www.statisticbrain.com/welfare-statistics/

Let me guess your response, the statistics are racist?
I think that a mere history lesson will educate you as to why blacks are disproportionately poor.

I note that the fact that 70% of the black population has NEVER been on welfare doesn't seem to interest you.

Yes way better to stereotype blacks based on the plight of 30% of the population instead of the 70% who do NOT want handouts!

BTW a trip to NYC will shock you as the bulk of our welfare recipients are either Hasidic Jews or Hispanics.
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Old 04-19-2018, 12:59 AM
 
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I think that a mere history lesson will educate you as to why blacks are disproportionately poor.

I note that the fact that 70% of the black population has NEVER been on welfare doesn't seem to interest you.

Yes way better to stereotype blacks based on the plight of 30% of the population instead of the 70% who do NOT want handouts!

BTW a trip to NYC will shock you as the bulk of our welfare recipients are either Hasidic Jews or Hispanics.
Who also tend to have VERY LARGE FAMILIES. They do live in housing owned by other Hasidics, so the money stays in the community.

The community prioritizes religious cohesiveness, and one will find some Hasidics BARELY speak English as certain Yeshivas pretty much instruct just in Hebrew and Yiddish.
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Old 04-19-2018, 01:00 AM
 
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I think that a mere history lesson will educate you as to why blacks are disproportionately poor.

I note that the fact that 70% of the black population has NEVER been on welfare doesn't seem to interest you.

Yes way better to stereotype blacks based on the plight of 30% of the population instead of the 70% who do NOT want handouts!

BTW a trip to NYC will shock you as the bulk of our welfare recipients are either Hasidic Jews or Hispanics.
Because racists and people spouting right wing rhethoric are generally LOW IQ. He can't process much, so what he is not prepared to address he skips.

He also doesn't know much.
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Old 04-20-2018, 10:23 PM
 
Location: Honolulu, HI
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I think that a mere history lesson will educate you as to why blacks are disproportionately poor.
The problem is not black poverty, every race has poor people. The problem is the stagnation and regression when there should be progress. I think a mere graph showing your the statistics of self-inflicted issues can educate you on why the progress of blacks continue to decrease.

You keep deflecting the problem to outside forces and history as if these outside forces are suppose to help us. Hello, they're part of the reason we're in this problem, the other half of the problem is a result of our own self-inflicted issue issues. If we fixed our half of the problem, black on black crime, you would see progress overnight.

Do you believe DC bureaucrats can help black people faster than black people can help themselves? If outside forces are repsonbile for statistics what on God's green earth makes you think they're going to help us fix the statistics?
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I note that the fact that 70% of the black population has NEVER been on welfare doesn't seem to interest you.
And 70%+ of white, Hispanics, and Asians have also never been on welfare. Congrats.

What interests me is black progress and the statistic don't reflect that. You might think this is some joke but the black community is in dangerous territory right now.

Blame white people all you want, they'll just call us too stupid and lazy to overcome the past. I've read more black literature than you could dream about, none of it says outside forces are the answer and the statistics reflect that. When a person kicks you done, that doesn't mean they're going to help you back up. A history lesson should've shown you that.

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Old 04-20-2018, 10:36 PM
 
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The government funds welfare, but ALL WORKING people, and that includes Blacks, Hispanics, and Asians are paying taxes for US citizens to collect welfare.
Doesn't justify the over representation of blacks collecting it.

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And all Americans collect welfare at some point. Social security is welfare. So is medicare. It is being paid for by working people. Unemployment is another government program Americans of any race used when they've been fired. Poor and middle class people of all races get financial aid in the form of grants or student loans.
Again, doesn't justify the overrepresention of blacks collecting it. The Rush Limbaugh's of America point right to the statistics. That is their pinpoint ammo to justify their racism, prejudices, and stereotypes toward blacks.

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Veterans of all races get free medical care, the government pays their college education, gives them subsidized mortgages, among other government benefits. If they were injured while in service they get decent pensions from the military.
Military "welfare" is not factored into the national statistics of welfare. Probably because one has to give up their freedom and risk being shot or blown up for this type of "welfare."

Blacks are overepresented in the military as well (13% of the population and 17% of the military). But atleast they're actively improving their situation. They're not out gang banging and committing crime.
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The stats aren't racist. The stats are extremely dishonest, because ALL AMERICANS at some point benefit from the welfare state.
The stats paint a perfect picture for racists to use against black stereotypes. No one can change the statistics for us, we have to do it ourselves.
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As a man who is a veteran, you should know that yourself because you are benefitting from welfare yourself.
So did Colin Powell and Alan West. I'm with good company.

I guess your solution is to beg 42 million African Americas, most of which won't qualify, to serve their country and get some of that "easy welfare"

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Old 04-20-2018, 11:12 PM
 
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Where is the progress? Where is the part where white democratic liberals, who have our votes, have helped us and made things better ?

Looks to me we're far better trying to help ourselves. The trends on these charts suggest it's only going to get worse.

So you can laugh and joke and not think it's a big deal but there is nothing funny about these charts. It paints a picture of the state of emergency blacks are in and it provides ammo to bigots.

I'm not going to wait for any politician, civil rights leader, or pray that racism magically goes away in this imperfect world. I'm going to be successful regardless of the hurdles and that is the mindset more blacks need because no one is coming to save us, we are on our own. If you sit there and let outside forces stop you from being successful, you wasted the progress MLK and all those civil rights leaders died for.

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