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Old 09-24-2014, 08:25 AM
 
Location: Type 0.7 Kardashev
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How come Ebola has never ravaged Africa in all these 1000's of years, but now
seems like it will be an ongoing epidemic?
There were undoubtedly Ebola outbreaks before the virus was isolated by modern medicine.

However, when Ebola would to infect a band of hunter gathers, or a village, the disease would simply ravage the band or village, and thus burn itself out as it ran out of victims when everyone was either dead, or recovered (and then immune to further infections). Given the limited human mobility of the past, and the relatively light population density, on average an infected band or village would pass the virus on the less than one other band or village. This transmission rate was not sustainable.

Now, however, people are extremely mobile. Airplanes, cars, buses, even bicycles allow individuals contact with far more people than in the past. So, too, do the dense populations of places like Monrovia or Freetown. Hundreds of years ago, the seat of a West African Empire might be the greatest city for a thousand miles - sporting 10 or perhaps 10 thousand people. Now, Ebola loose in the slums of a city is going to run rampant, and as a result people will flee. Some of those people will be infected.

Simply put, when Ebola now jumps to humans it finds itself in a veritible vectoring paradise.
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Old 09-24-2014, 09:37 AM
 
Location: Georgia, USA
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@suzy_q2010, thanks for your info on the matter. Do you think that the tactics used in Uganda and Congo can be used to curtail this situation currently, or is it now too widespread?
The methods used are basic infectious disease control: isolate the sick and quarantine people who have been exposed until the incubation period of the disease passes (3 weeks for Ebola). They will work, but compliance is essential.

I have to wonder if perhaps the Acholi elders could help convince the people in other countries who are resisting efforts to control the outbreak to change some of the things they do, including burial rituals. In areas where Ebola is endemic (there all the time, presumably in fruit bats and some non-human primates), bushmeat used for food would have to be carefully chosen and handled, if not avoided altogether. If it is avoided, then other sources of meat have to be provided.

What the news sources have not really covered is that many people appear to show evidence on blood testing of having been exposed to Ebola, with no history of disease, up to about one-third of the population of some communities. Perhaps we should identify and recruit some of those people, who appear to be immune, to help with taking care of the sick and burying the dead.

There is also the likelihood that a vaccine will soon be available, if people can be persuaded to take it.
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Old 09-29-2014, 11:00 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Default Ebola bomber Sawyer may be alive - Employer should pay

If have spent weeks looking at this strange set of events and conclude that logically Sawyer is still alive.

Also firm should pay damages.

See my blog at..

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Old 09-30-2014, 01:18 AM
 
Location: Big Island of Hawaii & HOT BuOYS Sailing Vessel
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Sorry, he is a corrected link to the blog.

http://www.city-data.com/blogs/blog3...a-nigeria.html
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Old 09-30-2014, 07:10 AM
 
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Killing of people for world power; to destroy people of color.
Far worse disease outbreaks have occurred, affecting people indiscriminantly of pigmentation.

Heck, ebola has barely killed anybody compared to any number of African conflicts in the last 10 years.

The idea that this is some sort of "white conspiracy" is backwards racist thinking.
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Old 09-30-2014, 08:53 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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Far worse disease outbreaks have occurred, affecting people indiscriminantly of pigmentation.

Heck, ebola has barely killed anybody compared to any number of African conflicts in the last 10 years.

The idea that this is some sort of "white conspiracy" is backwards racist thinking.
It's a shame how many black people believe this nonsense. I spoke with my stepfather this weekend who is a lawyer in Ghana. He too believes that Ebola was started by Big Pharma to sell drugs to the UN. I told him he's being silly. When what passes for the educated elite in a given country believes in such nonsense there isn't much hope for the common people.
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Old 09-30-2014, 11:59 AM
 
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It's a shame how many black people believe this nonsense. I spoke with my stepfather this weekend who is a lawyer in Ghana. He too believes that Ebola was started by Big Pharma to sell drugs to the UN. I told him he's being silly. When what passes for the educated elite in a given country believes in such nonsense there isn't much hope for the common people.
When I was in college a woman came around speaking (She was a PHD just not in medicine) giving the same speech about HIV being designed to kill blacks. This was something like 1989.

Years later with advances in genetics we now know that ebola and HIV have both been around for a loooong time. Ebola has been around hundreds of years before the African colonial period.

The real irony is that the criticism of big pharma in the US is that they don't cure "AFrican diseasses" like Malaria because there is no money in it. (Which is true)

Pretty much the bottom line is that it's always easier to blame some nefarious outside force. The europeans murdered tens of thousands of jews during the black plague for "poisoning the water".
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:07 PM
 
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Well now there's a confirmed case in Texas.
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Old 09-30-2014, 10:02 PM
 
Location: Austin
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Ebola has now reached Dallas. I'm not to concern about the patient, knowing he'll be in isolation care. But more concern of who he came in contact with before he arrived at the hospital.
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Old 10-01-2014, 05:53 AM
 
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Hepatitis C Now Kills More Americans Than HIV - US News

15,000 Hepatitis C deaths annually in the US.

Ebola is *sexy* but it's a big bad media boogeyman at the moment.

The same is true for it in Africa. Malaria kills more people there in a week than Ebola will kill in years.
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