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Old 01-19-2015, 09:30 AM
 
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Why people of European origin do want want to accept that Egyptians Were Black? What's the deal.

 
Old 01-20-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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The ancient Egyptians are 90% identical to moderns, except that there is more "black" in them now do to the Arab slave trade.

They are a very mixed race, as Eurasians started back migrating to North Africa in the stone ages. They still have a great deal of native African "E," but this does not mean "black" as North Africans evolved on a similar latitude, and look like Middle Easterners.

The entire "black Egypt" thing was created to address self esteem needs. Everyone has seen depictions of the ancients, and know what they looked like. A few do look strikingly "black," a vast majority do not, and Afrocentrist always try to pass off depictions of Nubians, Pharoah in symbolic blackness, etc.

In any event, here is some science.

Mitochondrial DNA Sequence Diversity in a Sedentary Population from Egypt - Stevanovitch - 2004 - Annals of Human Genetics - Wiley Online Library

Population history of North Africa: Evidence from classical genetic markers - Tags: HUMAN population genetics

Near eastern neolithic genetic input in ... [Am J Phys Anthropol. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI

The Levant versus the Horn of Africa: Evidence for Bidirectional Corridors of Human Migrations

PLOS Genetics: Genomic Ancestry of North Africans Supports Back-to-Africa Migrations

Y-chromosome analysis in Egypt suggests a genetic r... [Hum Biol. 2002] - PubMed - NCBI

Mitochondrial DNA structure in North Africa reveals a genetic discontinuity in the Nile Valley - Fadhlaoui-Zid - 2011 - American Journal of Physical Anthropology - Wiley Online Library

PLOS ONE: North African Populations Carry the Signature of Admixture with Neandertals



PROOF Modern Egyptians descend from Ancient Egyptians - YouTube



















Who were the ancient Egyptians? Dental a... [Am J Phys Anthropol. 2006] - PubMed - NCBI


mtDNA analysis in ancient Nubians suppo... [Ann Hum Biol. 1997 May-Jun] - PubMed - NCBI

mtDNA analysis of Nile River Valley populatio... [Am J Hum Genet. 1999] - PubMed - NCBI


http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11006048

Clines and clusters versus


The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form



Shomarka Omar Keita: What Genetics Can Tell Us (EGYPT) - YouTube




http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1216069/?tool=pmcentrez[/SIZE]

Thus, we propose that the Neolithic transitionin this part of the world was accompanied by demic diffusion ofAfro-Asiatic–speaking pastoralists from the Middle East.

BMC Genetics | Full text | Mitochondrial DNA transit between West Asia and North Africa inferred from U6 phylogeography

suggested a West Asian origin for theautochthonous North African lineage U6.

The mtDNA Legacy of the Levantine Early Upper Palaeolithic in Africa

that allowed humans to enter the Levant, openingthe way to the colonization of both Europe and North Africa

European Journal of Human Genetics - Abstract of article: Human Y chromosome haplogroup R-V88: a paternal genetic record of early mid Holocene trans-Saharan connections and the spread of Chadic languages

) may have been carried to Africa by anAsia-to-Africa back migration in prehistoric times.

The complex and diversified mitochondrial gene... [Ann Hum Genet. 2009] - PubMed - NCBI[/

Ourfindings show that the Berber mitochondrial pool is characterized by an overallhigh frequency of Western Eurasian haplogroups...

PLOS ONE: Introducing the Algerian Mitochondrial DNA and Y-Chromosome Profiles into the North African Landscape

From the beginning, a prominent mtDNAEuroasiatic genetic component was observed in the Northern areas occupied byMorocco [5] and Egypt [6],

The questionable contribution of the Neolithic and the Bronze Age to European craniofacial form

and recent human craniofacial dimensions supports thepicture documented by genetics that the extension of Neolithic agriculture fromthe Near East westward to Europe and across North Africawas accomplished by a process of demic diffusion (11–15)....

Whowere the ancient Egyptians? Dental affinities among Neolithic throughpostdynastic peoples

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16331657

JDIRISH 2006

the dynastic period is likely an indigenous continuation of the Naqadaculture, 4) there is support for overall biological uniformity through thedynastic period, and 5) this uniformity may continue into postdynastic times.

















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Old 01-20-2015, 04:50 AM
 
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Ancient Egypt was probably a multicultural place which had every race.

 
Old 01-20-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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This subject is beaten to death. I hope a mod closes this.
 
Old 01-20-2015, 04:26 PM
 
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This will likely start a race war thread and maybe should be closed.

At any rate, I have discussed this with two Anthropologists I know and they can confirm that most Egyptians were indeed of a darker race then originally believed.
 
Old 01-21-2015, 02:31 PM
 
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Egypt ( and various cultures ) was always various in colors. It it obvious that White/pale skinned people was rare as the sun in most areas would blacken most complexions. Seriously with enough sun anybody is black. But about being black; duh the Egyptians are all knowing of this already.

Keep in mind that many people of the Africas, Orient, and Asian races have multitudes of races. Not just what the common wealth dictates.
 
Old 01-23-2015, 10:43 PM
 
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This will likely start a race war thread and maybe should be closed.

At any rate, I have discussed this with two Anthropologists I know and they can confirm that most Egyptians were indeed of a darker race then originally believed.
haha ! "a race war thread"!! Funny all this !
 
Old 01-23-2015, 10:47 PM
 
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Egypt ( and various cultures ) was always various in colors. It it obvious that White/pale skinned people was rare as the sun in most areas would blacken most complexions..
So global warming could be a unifying factor, because with more sun everybody would be black. Good to know, let's warm up the planet !
 
Old 01-25-2015, 02:09 PM
 
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No......right now people are extremely biased towards each other compared to before 2001.

Colored television was more of an unifying factor because people were less educated about things like color-correction
and attributes of race.

Guess what? Money is also an uni-fying factor.
 
Old 01-26-2015, 12:11 PM
 
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Ancient Egypt was probably a multicultural place which had every race.
I'm sure they were. They definitely had to have been cognizant of race or they would all look the same today, considering they had 4000+ years to mix.
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