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Old 01-25-2015, 04:21 AM
 
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Despite the "presence" of the west in Nigeria against Boko Haram, this sect is gaining ground at the speed of light, so what is it going on here? Is Boko Haram a western proxy meant to force African countries to accept the military presence of western countries in Africa? It looks like !
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:48 AM
 
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Good question and good point !
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Old 01-25-2015, 01:15 PM
 
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Despite the "presence" of the west in Nigeria against Boko Haram, this sect is gaining ground at the speed of light, so what is it going on here? Is Boko Haram a western proxy meant to force African countries to accept the military presence of western countries in Africa? It looks like !
The Westerners are not the only actors with agency and agendas in this world and not everything comes down to Western actions. In the case of Boko Haram, their funding is somewhat opaque but it seems they received a bunch of funding from Osama bin Laden in 2002 and merged with Syrian al-qaida in 2012, al-qaida in the maghreb, al-shabbab in Somalia which controls much of that country, probably some individual Saudi backers, and quite a bit from its own criminal activities, that include pillaging villages, selling people into slavery and drug trafficking. I doubt the West is funding this on purpose, its not in our interests because the regime in Nigeria is fairly friendly to Western oil and other interests and Boko Haram is a sworn enemy of the West. Having a western military presence in Nigeria costs more money then the influence is worth, it would be cheaper to provide aid to the Nigerian government to just buy influence if that's what was wanted. If any western money is reaching them it's probably the law of unintended consequences from maybe funding Libyan and Syrian rebels who may have then armed Boko Haram. That's certainly the kind of incompetent foreign policy that may have led to this but as it's not in the West's real interests I feel it was probably more incompetence then malice. Then again, this article has a different take on things but the above is just my opinion on what I think is really going on:

Is the U.S. Government Funding Boko Haram? #BringBackOurGirls | SCG News

Paying for terrorism: Where does Boko Haram gets its money from? - Africa - World - The Independent
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Old 01-25-2015, 02:07 PM
 
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CIA is probably in on it as well. War is an business and has been forever. War is their for excuses to be made
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Old 01-25-2015, 03:16 PM
 
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CIA is probably in on it as well. War is an business and has been forever. War is their for excuses to be made
Maybe the empire does not want any potential empire to rise.
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Old 01-25-2015, 04:08 PM
 
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If Africa was to unite into one fraction ( which is possible ) It would probably become the most powerful nation on the planet.
So far that ( gold ) seems to be the primary trade ethic in Africa. Then their is Chocolate, rubber, sea-salt, diamonds as well. Maybe even Oil. Seriously Africa seems to be one big gigantic pile of booty ( coin the phrase Arggggghhh ).

I could imagine the uprising a bunch of half-naked men and women running up and down tearing down walls of embassies and capitals, running into bullets left and right, until every capital is one. No more American owned anything. No more bowing down to Europe, or Asia. No more Orientals and Arabics in the lime-light. No gurrellia warfare Fists and rocks.

Africa unites the rest of the world would go into darkness..................... That is why the "wafffftttt mannnn"
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Old 01-25-2015, 05:56 PM
 
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Yes the government, law enforcement, military nearly all support the radicals duh!
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Old 02-15-2015, 04:53 PM
 
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All terrorist groups are funded by the West. Be it directly or indirectly.
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Old 02-15-2015, 05:35 PM
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Despite the "presence" of the west in Nigeria against Boko Haram, this sect is gaining ground at the speed of light, so what is it going on here? Is Boko Haram a western proxy meant to force African countries to accept the military presence of western countries in Africa? It looks like !
Nigeria doesn't have anything that the United States wants or cant get elsewhere Nigeria's terrible infrastructure, safety issues, and rampant corruption don't help, the educated Nigerians that I know have no interest or plans returning to their country of origin.

If you want to blame anyone for as you put it for " this sect is gaining ground at the speed of light" then blame the fragmented, inept, corrupt military and government of Nigeria that could care less about ordinary Nigerian citizens.
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Old 02-16-2015, 01:37 PM
 
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If Africa was to unite into one fraction ( which is possible ) It would probably become the most powerful nation on the planet.
So far that ( gold ) seems to be the primary trade ethic in Africa. Then their is Chocolate, rubber, sea-salt, diamonds as well. Maybe even Oil. Seriously Africa seems to be one big gigantic pile of booty ( coin the phrase Arggggghhh ).

I could imagine the uprising a bunch of half-naked men and women running up and down tearing down walls of embassies and capitals, running into bullets left and right, until every capital is one. No more American owned anything. No more bowing down to Europe, or Asia. No more Orientals and Arabics in the lime-light. No gurrellia warfare Fists and rocks.

Africa unites the rest of the world would go into darkness..................... That is why the "wafffftttt mannnn"

This is a parody, right? As if all Africans share the same history, language, and culture!

I think the "Africa" section attracts the most naïve idealists of any other section of C-D.
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