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Old 04-27-2015, 04:03 PM
 
Location: London, UK
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The reason is Eurocentric world view
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Old 04-27-2015, 04:06 PM
 
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The reason is Eurocentric world view
You said it...

... so I didn't have to.
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Old 04-28-2015, 12:13 AM
 
Location: Macao
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You said it...

... so I didn't have to.
Actually, unfortunately, this goes on all around the world.

When I was in the Philippines, I met a lot of Filipinos who would call ANY white person an American. If you challenge them on this, you get a conversation something like this:

A) You would consider French and German as Americans too?
B) Yes.
A) Do you realize how they would react if you told them that?
B) Why would they? They know they are American.
A) But..

It goes into a circular argument as well.
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Old 04-28-2015, 09:04 AM
 
Location: London, UK
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Actually, unfortunately, this goes on all around the world.

When I was in the Philippines, I met a lot of Filipinos who would call ANY white person an American. If you challenge them on this, you get a conversation something like this:

A) You would consider French and German as Americans too?
B) Yes.
A) Do you realize how they would react if you told them that?
B) Why would they? They know they are American.
A) But..

It goes into a circular argument as well.
Wow really?

But there's a general theme that people put Europe and Europeans at high regard. Eurocentric doesn't just mean geographics it means Media domination, Eurocentric History etc
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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Actually, unfortunately, this goes on all around the world.
That may be true, but I personally hold Americans to a higher standard.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:46 PM
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The reason is Eurocentric world view
I understand Eurocentric world view as referring to a view of European exceptionalism tied to Colonialsim with the belief that Europe is the most important continent.

How are you using the term I have seen you use it multiple times. I believe you have used it even in reference to Americans of European ancestry. I can assure you Americans in general view North America as the excetional continent.

Can I refer to your world view as P Londoncentric?
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Old 04-28-2015, 03:30 PM
 
Location: Southwest Michigan/Miami Beach Miami
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I agree. Good post!
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:22 AM
 
Location: Randolph, MA
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I agree with the OP in general. However, I think the confusion comes up because the national identities themselves are a bit arbitrary. In terms of identity the country is not nearly as important as the ethnic group. And many Africans prefer to identify themselves by ethnic group over national origin. The message that comes across (even if its only implied) is that national identity is not very important. Being identified as an Igbo or Fulani is more important than being identified as Nigerian or Cameroonian.

Of course most Westerners know even less about the ethnic groups.
This just shows the line of thinking though. It was never agreed upon that the Yoruba and Igbo would be "Nigerians". Until self-determination is granted to ethnic groups in Africa, it will still not progress.

If you put 3 random Nigerians together to work on something; there may be tension . Put 3 Christian Igbos together though and it'll be much, much more cohesive. The EU is a perfect example. Greeks and Germans have some serious issues to overcome with each other (and the rest of the union).

Imagine if they were forced to be a nation instead of just a union. Wouldn't be pretty.
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Old 04-29-2015, 08:26 AM
 
Location: Randolph, MA
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I understand Eurocentric world view as referring to a view of European exceptionalism tied to Colonialsim with the belief that Europe is the most important continent.

How are you using the term I have seen you use it multiple times. I believe you have used it even in reference to Americans of European ancestry. I can assure you Americans in general view North America as the excetional continent.

Can I refer to your world view as P Londoncentric?
Had one of my best friends say that his family came from "across the ocean" the other day. Couldn't even remember the name for Europe lol. He picked up on it when I was about to make fun of him, but the point remains.

White Americans hear "Spanish" and think "El Salvador". Tell them that Spanish people are white and a lot of times, they'd disagree.

Amero-centric is definitely a thing.
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Old 04-29-2015, 01:02 PM
 
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Imagine if they were forced to be a nation instead of just a union. Wouldn't be pretty.
Hell Europe is still pissing over boundaries that were forced on their so-called homogenous population. Ukraine anyone? The Basque have just now come to terms with Spain. How long did it take for Ireland and Great Britain to come to terms. Did I mention Georgia, the Balkans, and this in the most recent history of Europe.
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