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Old 04-27-2015, 10:47 PM
 
Location: Macao
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A spin-off from another thread: Khoisan, Colored, Bantu, Whites, Asiatics, Afrikaners. This might even be further divided into different whites, and could probably have Indian included as well.

So, who has the most 'long-term rights' to stay there? I'd argue that probably ALL of them do...but if one was to argue that one or two groups have more rights than others, for whatever reason, which would you argue?

Maybe part of this thread should be tied into the fact, that probably ALL of them have the rights to be there. But, for argument's sake, I'd like to hear various sides of this.
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Old 04-28-2015, 02:14 AM
 
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1955 - The ANC writes a 'Freedom Charter' stating that South Africa belongs to all people living within it regardless of race, that all South Africans should be treated equally before the law, and that the country's wealth should be distributed equitably.
Well if they just follow the idea from the Freedom Charter then there'd be no argument as we'd all be considered equal.

The distributed wealth equitably is a bit difficult. I rate you'd always have the different classes but in an ideal world it would be great if the starting point for the lower class at least had access to all the basics such as a proper brick house (even if small), water, electricity, internet, security, food. I guess the biggest problem is in order to even this out, they have to take from someone else. I agree with the concept, just not the implementation.

They seem to be trying to squeeze what the can out of the middle class while the wealth is primarily sitting with that small percentage at the top. Even in terms of jobs and education they are trying to go for a quick fix. Affirmative action has a concept should work.

That concept being to help previously disadvantaged people move into the modern society. However the implementation is just stating to rather hire a black person first over a white person without any mention of if they were previously disadvantaged. This is bad for both sides. As a white person you can excluded from bursaries and sometimes jobs, and as a black person you can get hired on the notion that it's based on your skin colour and not if they are the best person for the job (which they might have worked hard for and actually are)

Although that could probably be a thread on it's own
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Old 06-17-2015, 09:33 PM
 
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Well if they just follow the idea from the Freedom Charter then there'd be no argument as we'd all be considered equal.

The distributed wealth equitably is a bit difficult. I rate you'd always have the different classes but in an ideal world it would be great if the starting point for the lower class at least had access to all the basics such as a proper brick house (even if small), water, electricity, internet, security, food. I guess the biggest problem is in order to even this out, they have to take from someone else. I agree with the concept, just not the implementation.

They seem to be trying to squeeze what the can out of the middle class while the wealth is primarily sitting with that small percentage at the top. Even in terms of jobs and education they are trying to go for a quick fix. Affirmative action has a concept should work.

That concept being to help previously disadvantaged people move into the modern society. However the implementation is just stating to rather hire a black person first over a white person without any mention of if they were previously disadvantaged. This is bad for both sides. As a white person you can excluded from bursaries and sometimes jobs, and as a black person you can get hired on the notion that it's based on your skin colour and not if they are the best person for the job (which they might have worked hard for and actually are)

Although that could probably be a thread on it's own

I do not agree with you.
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