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Old 07-14-2015, 08:26 PM
 
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... have you noticed that the poorest, most oppressive nations are also the most homophobic?

Uganda has allowed a white, unknown American so-called, "Priest" to position them as the most homophobic country in the world. Republican, anti-gay activist Scott Lively is a white American self-proclaimed preacher now being PROSECUTED for violating U.S. law by trying to influence the laws of a foreign country.

Which country?
UGANDA.

AN entire African country let a LOSER ... create attitudes and laws based on hateful false doctrine that oppresses its own people and makes it POORER economically. Amazing.

How is it that an African NATION can let some guy hungry for attention to convince them to oppress, jail, terrorize and murder it's own citizens??

... a so-called, Right Wing Republican ... so extreme that when he tried to run for political office, his own party wouldn't nominate him so he had to run as an Independent... and LOST... yet he was able ... and yet people claim the U.S. is trying to export Homosexuality???

If anything, the U.S. could be guilty of exporting Homophobia.
(Its now trying to change it's prior "pure" views because it sees the money too many Africans are blind to.)

If he's a CHRISTIAN, he knows that Jesus said NOTHING against homosexuality.
(The old testament is a part of the Torah written in code that needs a Rabbi with a knowledge of Hebrew, numerology, astrology and allegory to decipher. Those stories are not meant to be taken literally. The Bible CLEARLY states:
  1. "... be not of the letter, for the letter kills." (2 Corinthians 3:3 - 3:6)
  2. The Book goes on to TELL the would-be aspirant NOT to judge... for if you are a judge, you are not a lover of God, but a murderer." (James 4:11-12 )
  3. "You have heard that it was said, "You shall love your neighbor and hate your enemy." (Matthew 5:43)
  4. "You shall not take vengeance or bear a grudge against the sons of your own people, but you shall love your neighbor as yourself: I am the Lord." (Leviticus 19:18)
Didn't Uganda have the Internet??
This guy is being prosecuted in U.S. and International courts for Crimes against Humanity.
What galls me is that Africans who buy into this religious doctrine crap don't KNOW what the books they claim to follow are really about. (That's an entire different discussion.)

When you see a YouTube video of "Pastor Scott Lively," he's got Gregorian CATHOLIC chants playing behind him. The guy is an evangelical PROTESTANT, not a Catholic. Besides... the Vatican is so full of gay priest they're now having "Gay Tours" of the place. (Check it out for yourself.) There are Catholic priest in the highest levels of the Church who lust after those "Swiss Guards" ... so why are poor Africans being told to hate and oppress their brothers and sisters?

To keep it simple, any BLACK American who isn't trying to narcissistically position him/herself "in the car" for money or fame, knows that extreme Republicans are no friends of black people. They support white supremest out of hatred, selfishness, and shakey self-identities. White Tea Party principals are no friends to black people anywhere on earth.

So instead of the argument that America is trying to export homosexuality, it's easier to look at the evidence and say that its Homophobia being exported rather than the homosexuality... that is already present in human beings all over the world.

The larger question is, why are nations like Uganda, Robert Mugabe's Zimbabwe, and Russia's, Putin siding with homophobia?
CONTROL, Division, and Repression.


In Matthew 19:10-12, "Jesus" is written to have said one thing... and that was to understand and emphasize WITH gays. Jesus refers to "eunuchs who have been so from birth." This terminology ("born eunuchs") was used in the ancient world to refer to homosexual men. Jesus indicates that being a "born eunuch" is a gift from God.

Increasingly I'm seeing this whole thing from a viewpoint of power and money.
If I have a city... and I want money... all I need to do is get my folks to clean up the place, put some paint on the houses, tell the police to make is SAFE for tourist, then INVITE people in worldwide.


The tourist game is pretty easy.
You don't even have to create the wheel ... the model is already there. Just copy it and start counting your money. Thailand is actually one of the most conservative Buddhist countries on the planet, but they are wise enough to know from whence their help doth come... and they are constantly counting the cash the world brings them.

But nooOOoo.... shame-based, illiterate people fall prey to ambitious "leaders" who want to pimp them for their own rewards, so "the people" end up with a Bible they do not understand (i.e. HOW can anyone possibly rape an angel?????????) ... while the big boys continue to rake in the cash. Plus, it's WRONG doctrine! So here they lead a broke life, expecting to end up in front of some pearly gates... after doing THE OPPOSITE of what their holy books really instruct them.

My Prayer?
  1. That Africa stops being flim-flammed and starts improving their tourism.
  2. My second prayer is that African nations begin using the creative gifts of ALL it's citizens.
Ethiopia, with all its brilliance and history, still has to buy it's bill boards and creative advertising from Kenya. Where are thousands of Ugandan LGBT people fleeing to? Kenya.

James Joyce once wrote that the artist, musicians, poets, and writers create the consciousness of the race.
This shouldn't be the Dark Ages.
Use the talents that God gave you to uplift yourselves ... not oppress each other.
That last sentence can be spoken to people worldwide.
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Old 08-09-2015, 05:51 PM
 
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Africa is slowly winning the fight against HIV/AIDS but now the West wants Africa to adopt their Gay agenda to increase AIDS amongst people that don't have protection like the gays in the developed world. Hypocrasie all over, Africa is right to pull the middle finger against America on this matter. Thank god Kenyatta(Kenya) and the Ethiopian prime minister said no to the gay plot. Thank god the ENTIRE African Union in Addis Abeba didn't clap when Obama brought up the gay issue. Well done Africa, go by your own pace.
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Old 08-09-2015, 06:03 PM
 
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Africa is slowly winning the fight against HIV/AIDS but now the West wants Africa to adopt their Gay agenda to increase AIDS amongst people that don't have protection like the gays in the developed world. Hypocrasie all over, Africa is right to pull the middle finger against America on this matter. Thank god Kenyatta(Kenya) and the Ethiopian prime minister said no to the gay plot. Thank god the ENTIRE African Union in Addis Abeba didn't clap when Obama brought up the gay issue. Well done Africa, go by your own pace.
NO

AS HISTORY HAS SHOWN: Whenever you ban ANYTHING; whether it's drugs, guns, alcohol or homosexuality- IT WILL JUST CREATE A BLACK MARKET FOR IT and make the "problem" even WORSE. Again, it doesn't fix the problem...the people just become more secretive about it.

In the case of homosexuality, these surpressed African men will now SECRETLY SLEEP WITH OTHER MEN and then GO BACK TO THEIR WIVES... and in turn, PUT THEIR WIVES AT EVEN HIGHER RISK for HIV infection....WHICH WILL MAKE THE PROBLEM WORSE for everyone!!

If Africans were accepting towards homosexuality then there could be LGBT humanitarian centers that would supply condoms to gay men, educate them on HIV prevention and provide HIV testing. And they can build relationships with each other instead of marrying women to cover-up their homosexuality, sneaking behind her back with other men and then putting her at higher risk for infection. It's a win-win situation for everyone.

Another added bonus is that gay relationships reduce the birth rate and the birth rate in literally EVERY African country is increasing WAY faster than the food supply and economic opportunities. This will lead to even more starvation and other SEVERE ISSUES in coming years.

On another note: It pisses me off that people just can't worry about their own [probably screwed-up] lives and have to focus on what other people do. How would YOU feel if some random strangers were SO obsessed with what YOU do with your partner in the privacy of your own home? Why not devote the same energy into the REAL issues such as the ones that you brought up in the following thread instead of worrying about where some random dude chooses to put his own ding-dong?
If you were the president of the entire coninent of Africa?!

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Old 08-15-2015, 09:25 PM
 
Location: BC Canada
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Africans lack of respect for human rights and probably even more so the entire concept of it is why Africa will always be corrupt, very poor, going from one war to the next, have no political stability, have high crime rates, and absolutely no influence on world affairs except for more liberal and democratic South Africa.

The rise in human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand with economic and political development. The world most prosperous, peaceful, and stable countries are also the ones that are the least sexist and homophobic and that my friends is no coincidence.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:32 AM
 
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The rise in human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand with economic and political development. The world most prosperous, peaceful, and stable countries are also the ones that are the least sexist and homophobic and that my friends is no coincidence.
Well that's pretty euro-centrically arrogant and self-righteous. Here we are talking about the propagation the most virulent form of homophobia, based upon religious strictures that originated in Western European" and you have to temerity to talk about human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand...blah, blah, blah. While we cannot roll back history, it would be quiet interesting to see how prosperous, peaceful and stable Africa might have been without the influence of Western developed Christianity and all that came with it.
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Old 08-16-2015, 04:20 PM
 
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Well that's pretty euro-centrically arrogant and self-righteous. Here we are talking about the propagation the most virulent form of homophobia, based upon religious strictures that originated in Western European" and you have to temerity to talk about human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand...blah, blah, blah. While we cannot roll back history, it would be quiet interesting to see how prosperous, peaceful and stable Africa might have been without the influence of Western developed Christianity and all that came with it.
Pre-Christian Europe was not very homophobic. Christian religious scripture did not originate in Western Europe. The mores of Judeo-Christian tradition come from the Middle East. European cultures were an indigenous peoples Christianized just as African peoples have become.
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Old 08-16-2015, 07:35 PM
 
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Well that's pretty euro-centrically arrogant and self-righteous. Here we are talking about the propagation the most virulent form of homophobia, based upon religious strictures that originated in Western European" and you have to temerity to talk about human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand...blah, blah, blah. While we cannot roll back history, it would be quiet interesting to see how prosperous, peaceful and stable Africa might have been without the influence of Western developed Christianity and all that came with it.
Don't blame the white men, Christianity was already in Africa before the Europeans arrived.
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Old 08-16-2015, 11:28 PM
 
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Africans lack of respect for human rights and probably even more so the entire concept of it is why Africa will always be corrupt, very poor, going from one war to the next, have no political stability, have high crime rates, and absolutely no influence on world affairs except for more liberal and democratic South Africa.

The rise in human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand with economic and political development. The world most prosperous, peaceful, and stable countries are also the ones that are the least sexist and homophobic and that my friends is no coincidence.
This isnt 1992, open your eyes.
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Old 08-17-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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Well that's pretty euro-centrically arrogant and self-righteous. Here we are talking about the propagation the most virulent form of homophobia, based upon religious strictures that originated in Western European" and you have to temerity to talk about human rights and respect for the individual go hand in hand...blah, blah, blah. While we cannot roll back history, it would be quiet interesting to see how prosperous, peaceful and stable Africa might have been without the influence of Western developed Christianity and all that came with it.


Does your curiosity as to how stable and peaceful Africa could be at this time include or not include the Arab/Islamic invasions that occurred several hundreds of years prior to the first European colonizers of the European colonial period?

Does it also take into account the 100 million or so Africans enslaved over the course of the hundreds of years of Arab conquest of Africa?
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Old 08-18-2015, 12:27 AM
 
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Does your curiosity as to how stable and peaceful Africa could be at this time include or not include the Arab/Islamic invasions that occurred several hundreds of years prior to the first European colonizers of the European colonial period?

Does it also take into account the 100 million or so Africans enslaved over the course of the hundreds of years of Arab conquest of Africa?
They did it too!

Dumb arguement, why did either do it?

And personally, I'm well aware and have called them out on it in the past.
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