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Old 08-20-2015, 11:25 PM
 
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I was recently having a discussion with somebody who said that white South Africans who live in the US are African American, because not everybody in Africa is black, and they are from Africa.

That's like calling a person whose family moved from England to the US, but is of South Asian descent, an English American, or calling a black person living in Europe a "German American" or "Italian American" or a "French American". That denies their heritage ( same with this situation-South Africans are English, German and Dutch), and makes it confusing regarding censuses because their ethnicities then overlap.

Ask the White Guy: Is a White Immigrant From Africa Really an African-American? - DiversityInc

It doesn't make sense regardless of race-because even the black South Africans in the US descend from one country-their ancestry isn't mixed with ancestors from countless tribes and present-day countries.
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Old 08-21-2015, 01:40 AM
 
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Idk, im half african, half american..half white, half black..and while i am by definition african american, i am not black..im biracial. so when the forms come and they want me to tick "african american" or "two or more races" i get confused because i am both?

In truth Im american african and not african american, in that i was born and raised in africa and american is my qualifier

I tick biracial though

White south africans are not black, which is really what they are asking.
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Old 08-21-2015, 02:40 AM
 
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We don't normally consider ourselves African American if we move to the USA. At most we'll joke around about it but we normally always just identify as South African
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Old 08-21-2015, 05:52 PM
 
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As a technical matter, sure, people of South African descent who live/are citizens in/of the US can call themselves "African Americans." But, as the term was meant to be understood and used originally, they are certainly don't fit the definition.
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Old 08-21-2015, 06:41 PM
 
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We don't normally consider ourselves African American if we move to the USA. At most we'll joke around about it but we normally always just identify as South African
How would you reply to people who say South Africans in the USA are African American because not everybody in Africa is black, and they are African?
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:25 PM
 
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Why not just call them "White African-American"?
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:31 PM
 
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American isn't even a race. Unless your Native American.

If an Asian American moves to China. Does that make him Chinese American?
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Old 08-21-2015, 07:47 PM
 
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How would you reply to people who say South Africans in the USA are African American because not everybody in Africa is black, and they are African?
Well if we follow the same logic and say originally we're from Europe then I should be currently referred to as European-African? But we don't have those same kind of associations as they seem to in the States since we just refer to ourselves as South African (and arguably African sometimes).

So I don't see why I would suddenly want to be called an African-American/South African-American if I went to America?
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Old 08-21-2015, 09:12 PM
 
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As an Afro-American...I would call South Africans, South African regardless of race...The term African-American should be
dropped..People are American if born in America...If they want to specify RACE since Americans are obsessed by it and
Euro-Americans NEVER MAKE THE MISTAKE OF OVERLOOKING ANY AMOUNT OF RACIALLY AFRICAN BLOOD( see 1 drop rule).

then, Afro-American is appropriate...if you want to make a distinction...I think to above logic is used by some African born
foreigners to try to get some free money intended for the American descendants of African slaves..using a technicality.


A West African told me Americans and South Africans are obsessed with race, the rest of the world uses nationality and
culture as primary identifiers first..African-American term causes confusion if using terms of nationality how can one be
African and American at the same time?...if using race what is an African? what is an American? This hyphenating is very strange to people in Europe and Africa..
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Old 08-21-2015, 11:38 PM
 
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In the U.S. African-American means black

Are South-Africans African-American? Yes they are
Do they call themselves that way? I really doubt it

Same reason people from Europe don't call themselves "European-American"
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