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Old 05-22-2017, 11:49 PM
 
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Ethiopia is a sovereign nation. It is their decision. The Chinese company is a contractor. The credit goes to Ethiopia for pursuing a better life for its citizens.
Any bets no Ethiopians were employed in the construction, except maybe to bring water for the Chinese workers. The Chinese are famous for doing this, so there is little technology transfer in this exercise.

So one can discuss as to what the real benefits will be for those outside of the elites.
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Old 05-22-2017, 11:53 PM
 
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Natural resources are quite scarce in Ethiopia, but ok if that's what you think.
Construction funded with Chinese loans. All of the professionals and most of the labor probably Chinese. All supplies also Chinese.

Interesting that Ethiopia will pay the banks, the Chinese professionals and the Chinese workers,the materials, so Chinese get paid TWICE.

Those who think that China is a kind benefactor need to get over it as in fact locals have had to stage attacks on some of these Chinese projects to protest the fact that they don't get employed.

You know what if it were the Europeans at least the laboring jobs would go to locals, even if nothing else.
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Old 05-23-2017, 01:34 PM
 
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Construction funded with Chinese loans. All of the professionals and most of the labor probably Chinese. All supplies also Chinese.

Interesting that Ethiopia will pay the banks, the Chinese professionals and the Chinese workers,the materials, so Chinese get paid TWICE.

Those who think that China is a kind benefactor need to get over it as in fact locals have had to stage attacks on some of these Chinese projects to protest the fact that they don't get employed.

You know what if it were the Europeans at least the laboring jobs would go to locals, even if nothing else.
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Any bets no Ethiopians were employed in the construction, except maybe to bring water for the Chinese workers. The Chinese are famous for doing this, so there is little technology transfer in this exercise.

So one can discuss as to what the real benefits will be for those outside of the elites.
Any bets you don't know what you what you're talking about? Lmao, 'bring water for the workers', nice insult. Stop making things up on the spot when you have no idea what you're talking about nor follow the pictures as these projects progress.
Skills are getting transferred and Ethiopians were involved in the construction process. As well as the other railway lines being built as we speak.

But then again, you have not been there nor knows what goes on in Ethiopia so you cannot speak on this subject. I'll bring photos if I have to.

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Old 06-06-2017, 08:32 AM
 
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So, those who have used the METRO in Addis Ababa.

What are some good stations to get off, and walk around? Doesn't have to be for tourist sites, but just interesting neighborhoods or locations that are near an easily accessible metro station?
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Old 06-06-2017, 02:41 PM
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The train looks nice, but the stations appear rather ordinary. Good for Ethiopia!





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Old 06-06-2017, 03:21 PM
 
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Nigeria has metro systems under construction by the Chinese.

These days much of the rolling stock now being sold to public transportation authorities is made by Chinese companies. East Asia and Europe blow North America away in terms of public transportation!
Part of the second paragraph isn't true. China is good at building the infrastructure itself, but most trains come from Europe. Most of the trains in China are built in Europe. Only some of their high speed trains are built in China. North America hasn't had the need to public transport like Europe or Asia. Our countries are very different.
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Old 06-06-2017, 10:23 PM
 
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The train looks nice, but the stations appear rather ordinary.
The train platforms look a bit more like commuter type of rail. I wonder if that is the intention, or if they have some dense walkable neighborhoods around some of the stations...
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Old 06-12-2017, 08:39 AM
 
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Is that true? Donít South Africa or Nigeria have metro system?
There is a commuter rail service known as the "Gautrain" or the "Gauteng Train" in Jo'burg. It has been in operation for several years.
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Old 04-02-2018, 09:14 AM
 
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I went to Addis Ababa again recently post-Metro.

It's more of a commuter train. It doesn't have any stations in any of the more popular areas, like BOLE for example. Which is basically the nightlife/restaurant/chic neighborhood.

I intended to ride the train, but it just went nowhere I wanted to go, and most locals who work and live within the city, had never ridden it. It seems that its main purpose was to connect the long-distance commuters into the city. That being said, I don't know where in the city it was bringing them into. There wasn't a clear 'Central Station' type of place with high density stuff at all, like you might see in Europe or other places.

That being said, at least they have something!
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Old 04-06-2018, 01:11 AM
 
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Part of the second paragraph isn't true. China is good at building the infrastructure itself, but most trains come from Europe. Most of the trains in China are built in Europe. Only some of their high speed trains are built in China. North America hasn't had the need to public transport like Europe or Asia. Our countries are very different.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Addis_Ababa_Light_Rail

UrbanRail.Net > Africa > Ethiopia > Addis Ababa light rail

According to these two links, the trains for the Addis Abba metro were built by a Chinese company in China.
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