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Old 08-12-2019, 10:18 PM
 
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there is not such thing as pan-africanism, thats something that only exist int eh head of AA and some Caribbeans.
in latam where the largest amount of the African diaspora lives by a big big margins, pan africanism does not exist. is not even a though. There people see them self as members of their respective countries and do no see other black people as brother or anything like it. The relationship between black Latin americans is basically the same of all latinoamericans.
You don't even know what you're talking about and so you should stop acting like an authority. Many Africans today actually believe in Pan-Africanism and is becoming more "mainstream." African leaders like the Ghananian president even embraces it. Not only that the EFF party of South Africa and their leader Malema embraces. Which is why I said Pan-Africanism would work more so among Africans.

Blacks from Latin-America don't represent all Blacks. And there are more African-Americans than Afro-Brazilians. Blacks in Latin America are actually a very small population.
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Old 08-13-2019, 02:09 PM
 
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You don't even know what you're talking about and so you should stop acting like an authority. Many Africans today actually believe in Pan-Africanism and is becoming more "mainstream." African leaders like the Ghananian president even embraces it. Not only that the EFF party of South Africa and their leader Malema embraces. Which is why I said Pan-Africanism would work more so among Africans.

Blacks from Latin-America don't represent all Blacks. And there are more African-Americans than Afro-Brazilians. Blacks in Latin America are actually a very small population.
are you retarded? Latin america has the largest population of people of African descent outside Africa. are you even serious?
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:05 PM
 
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Am happy to see AAs taking the journey to Africa who see the value in the Continent & have moved. I wish them all the success on the continent! No one is running from Africa rather seeking better opportunities in Africa where they are valued!


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Countries in Africa where no visa is needed
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Old 08-13-2019, 05:54 PM
 
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are you retarded? Latin america has the largest population of people of African descent outside Africa. are you even serious?

No it doesn't. Its a stupid ass myth that won't go away. Retard. The REAL Afro-Brazilian population is 14,517,961. All together(if you factor in Haiti) they are approximately 37.2 million. That's low compared to African-Americans who are around 45 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Latin_Americans

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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans

Even if you want to factor in one drop rule for Dominicans who don't consider themselves "Black." It's still barely enough or SLIGHTLY above Aframs.
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Old Yesterday, 01:59 AM
 
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No it doesn't. Its a stupid ass myth that won't go away. Retard. The REAL Afro-Brazilian population is 14,517,961. All together(if you factor in Haiti) they are approximately 37.2 million. That's low compared to African-Americans who are around 45 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Latin_Americans

vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans

Even if you want to factor in one drop rule for Dominicans who don't consider themselves "Black." It's still barely enough or SLIGHTLY above Aframs.
Actually it's 39 million going on 40 or 41 million Aframs. Brazil have a perplexing ethnic composition & identity in regards to Afro descendants. Still a significant population size though. ( Not directed at you) People with a steady interests in any African cultures will travel their with a thorough plan(s) and especially those relocating across the Atlantic.
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Old Yesterday, 04:43 AM
 
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And if you guys want to start with Pan-Africanism then start with this forum because this has got to be the most anti-Haitian forum I've ever been on.

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Actually it's 39 million going on 40 or 41 million Aframs. Brazil have a perplexing ethnic composition & identity in regards to Afro descendants. Still a significant population size though. ( Not directed at you) People with a steady interests in any African cultures will travel their with a thorough plan(s) and especially those relocating across the Atlantic.


What do you mean? The Afram population has increased. Most statistics put it around 45 million now. 39 million was years ago.
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Old Yesterday, 06:20 AM
 
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there is not such thing as pan-africanism, thats something that only exist int eh head of AA and some Caribbeans.
in latam where the largest amount of the African diaspora lives by a big big margins, pan africanism does not exist. is not even a though. There people see them self as members of their respective countries and do no see other black people as brother or anything like it. The relationship between black Latin americans is basically the same of all latinoamericans.
Your experience with Africans themselves to know if this is true? Your direct knowledge of having lived in Africa?

If you’ve never really lived or even been to an Africa can country you have no grounds on what to speak.
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Old Yesterday, 08:58 AM
 
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What do you mean? The Afram population has increased. Most statistics put it around 45 million now. 39 million was years ago.
Our population growth isn't that fast and I'll say 41 mill conservatively. Those stats includes the Black umbrella not Aframs alone. So another 4 mill or so includes the Africans & Afro Carribeans/Hispanics/Canadians/Europeans too.
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Old Yesterday, 10:23 AM
 
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No it doesn't. Its a stupid ass myth that won't go away. Retard. The REAL Afro-Brazilian population is 14,517,961. All together(if you factor in Haiti) they are approximately 37.2 million. That's low compared to African-Americans who are around 45 million.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Afro-Latin_Americans

vs
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/African_Americans

Even if you want to factor in one drop rule for Dominicans who don't consider themselves "Black." It's still barely enough or SLIGHTLY above Aframs.
Whatís w real Afro Brazilian and who determines that?

There to tell how many Black People in whatever country support Pan Africanist without extensive polling. Who really cares?

Lastly people in any nation are individuals, and you donít have all people from a nation who feel the same way. There are African Americans who are not pan Africanists, and who would reject the label African. There are Afro Latino pan Africanists. Oneís politics are a personal choice. Most of the people here speaking for large groups of people have never even visited these places?

Have you visited Brazil to know what the African diaspora population is like?

Having an interest in your ethnic identity does not mean you should disparage the ethnic identities of others. You definitely have a lot of racists on here, but 5 internet trolls donít represent all Latin Americans or all Afro Latinos.
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Old Yesterday, 01:21 PM
 
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What’s w real Afro Brazilian and who determines that?

There to tell how many Black People in whatever country support Pan Africanist without extensive polling. Who really cares?

Lastly people in any nation are individuals, and you don’t have all people from a nation who feel the same way. There are African Americans who are not pan Africanists, and who would reject the label African. There are Afro Latino pan Africanists. One’s politics are a personal choice. Most of the people here speaking for large groups of people have never even visited these places?

Have you visited Brazil to know what the African diaspora population is like?

Having an interest in your ethnic identity does not mean you should disparage the ethnic identities of others. You definitely have a lot of racists on here, but 5 internet trolls don’t represent all Latin Americans or all Afro Latinos.
Adoswarrior applies a "selective definition of blackness" to adapt the reality to his will.

According to him Brazilian pardos are not black because they are mixed. but then goes to put all African american into the black category (because they most likely will self identify as such)
but how does he knows that all pardos do not consider themself black?
or all mulatoes?

Being afrondecendant does not means you identify as black, means that you know that you are at least part African. So latin american has 3 times more afro descendants than the US. They just dont go around calling themselves African, because they are not African, they have some African ancestry.

The fact that AA (of all level of mixture) considered themselves black, is irrelevant.

just in Brasil the pardo population is somewhere between 60-80 million.

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