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Old 03-08-2016, 09:59 PM
 
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Found an interesting article about slavery in pre-colonial African societies.


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In Africa, many societies recognized slaves merely as property, but others saw them as dependents who eventually might be integrated into the families of slave owners. Still other societies allowed slaves to attain positions of military or administrative power. Most often, both slave owners and slaves were black Africans, although they were frequently of different ethnic groups. Traditionally, African slaves were bought to perform menial or domestic labor, to serve as wives or concubines, or to enhance the status of the slave owner. Traditional African practices of slavery were altered to some extent beginning in the 7th century by two non-African groups of slave traders: Arab Muslims and Europeans...

Slavery in Africa

 
Old 03-09-2016, 03:42 AM
 
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This article is horse****. There were all forms of slavery in Africa--Africans LOVED slavery--some of which were relatively benign and some of which were unimaginably more cruel than Western plantation slavery. Here are some facts about West African slavery:

A) African slavery was cruel to the point where it included even mass human sacrifice during such events as the Dahomey Annual Rites and the Festival of the Yams.

B) African slaves were castrated en masse to serve in harems. Since the mortality rate was over 90%, they would just castrate a whole lot of slaves and whoever lived lived, whoever died died.

C) Sexual slavery was rampant in Africa.

D) Ibn Battuta describes a tale told to him personally by the king of Mali where the king gave neighboring cannibals a slave girl to butcher and eat.

E) Slaves were forced to fight in African armies, If they retreated they were hacked up by swords who stood in back not to fight the enemy, but specifically for that purpose.

F) The average lifespan of a slave in Kanum was 7 years. So much for "12 years a slave." You didn't get that in Africa.

G) There was chattel slavery in Africa. Since they were usually war captives, and wars were againt ethnic opponents, it can very much be said that there was a racist chattel system comparable to Western slavery.

H) Africans sold their own to European slavers. At the Gate of Tears, if the slaves captured were judged to be unfit for the sea voyage, the Africans buried their own alive.

And on and on. Most of this can be verified by the interested by with a quick googe search
 
Old 03-09-2016, 12:57 PM
 
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C) Sexual slavery was rampant in Africa.
I'll look into those other things you highlighted. As far as sexual slavery. There is still a practice today in parts of west Africa called Trokosi where young girls are made to serve as servants/slaves to priest for miss deeds done by their relatives.
 
Old 03-09-2016, 01:20 PM
 
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B) African slaves were castrated en masse to serve in harems. Since the mortality rate was over 90%, they would just castrate a whole lot of slaves and whoever lived lived, whoever died died.
What does this mean about castrating slaves for harems? Harems are women captives. So how do you castrate women??
 
Old 03-09-2016, 03:06 PM
 
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What does this mean about castrating slaves for harems? Harems are women captives. So how do you castrate women??
To serve as eunuch guards. There is a very, very long primary source quote on the subject in a book I own. If interested I can type it out, though I haven't time at the moment.

All of this nonesense about African slavery being benign and more akin to adopting someone in your family was started by Afrocentrists and adopted by multiculti liberals who will say anything to bash the West. There is no truth to it whatsoever.
 
Old 03-09-2016, 03:11 PM
 
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How true. They were instrumental to the beginning of the African slave trade. The Portuguese did not begin running about Africa, capturing people.
 
Old 03-10-2016, 10:58 PM
 
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Some info on the current day situation.


Slavery still haunts Africa, where millions remain captive - latimes
 
Old 03-10-2016, 11:05 PM
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Old 03-11-2016, 07:57 AM
 
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This article is horse****. There were all forms of slavery in Africa--Africans LOVED slavery--some of which were relatively benign and some of which were unimaginably more cruel than Western plantation slavery. Here are some facts about West African slavery:

A) African slavery was cruel to the point where it included even mass human sacrifice during such events as the Dahomey Annual Rites and the Festival of the Yams.

B) African slaves were castrated en masse to serve in harems. Since the mortality rate was over 90%, they would just castrate a whole lot of slaves and whoever lived lived, whoever died died.

C) Sexual slavery was rampant in Africa.

D) Ibn Battuta describes a tale told to him personally by the king of Mali where the king gave neighboring cannibals a slave girl to butcher and eat.

E) Slaves were forced to fight in African armies, If they retreated they were hacked up by swords who stood in back not to fight the enemy, but specifically for that purpose.

F) The average lifespan of a slave in Kanum was 7 years. So much for "12 years a slave." You didn't get that in Africa.

G) There was chattel slavery in Africa. Since they were usually war captives, and wars were againt ethnic opponents, it can very much be said that there was a racist chattel system comparable to Western slavery.

H) Africans sold their own to European slavers. At the Gate of Tears, if the slaves captured were judged to be unfit for the sea voyage, the Africans buried their own alive.

And on and on. Most of this can be verified by the interested by with a quick googe search

More disinformation and half truths by cahibatches I see. Let's see.

A. This was primarily the result of the Arab slave trade(Which was primarily in North and East Africa) and little to do with indigenous West African forms of indentured servitude

B. See part A.

C. Not true. Certain tribes yes but was not rampant in all parts of Africa.

D. Source?

E. Never heard of this. Which tribe?

F. Most likely because they were absorbed into the tribe.

G. There are no records of chattel slavery existing in West Africa prior to European contact. You just pulled this out of thin air.

H. Sure there were Africans whom sold "prisoners of war" to European slavers but only at the risk of being captured and enslaved themselves.
 
Old 03-11-2016, 02:42 PM
 
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More disinformation and half truths by cahibatches I see. Let's see.

A. This was primarily the result of the Arab slave trade(Which was primarily in North and East Africa) and little to do with indigenous West African forms of indentured servitude

B. See part A.

C. Not true. Certain tribes yes but was not rampant in all parts of Africa.

D. Source?

E. Never heard of this. Which tribe?

F. Most likely because they were absorbed into the tribe.

G. There are no records of chattel slavery existing in West Africa prior to European contact. You just pulled this out of thin air.

H. Sure there were Africans whom sold "prisoners of war" to European slavers but only at the risk of being captured and enslaved themselves.
You have no idea what you are talking about. Don't be an intellectual coward but face truth.

A. Human sacrifice in Africa had NOTHING to do with the Arab slave trade. Danhomey and Ashanti were not in Northeast Africa but West Africa. This is not a misunderstanding. This is an outright lie on your part.

B. Again, speaking of the Ashanti. You have no idea what you are talking about and are making up lies out of embarrassemnt.

C. So you are admitting that it is true but take exception with the word "rampant." Stop lying.

D. It is in "IN BLACK AFRICA" By Ibn Batttuta.

Earlier, while Battuta was still at the capital, a group of African cannibals and their leader came to see sultan Mansa Suleiman. They wore large metal rings in their ears and wore silver mantles. they came from a region that possessed a gold mine, so the sultan was gracious to them, and gave them a slave woman as a hospitality gift. The cannibals killed and ate her, then smeared her blood on themselves and went to thank the sultan. As an aside, Battuta reported that he heard the tastiest meat came from the palms and the breasts.

E. Ashanti and others.

F. It was becasue they were worked to death.

G. It is just as I have said. War captives were chattel slaves, not bonded slaves. They weren't committing mass human sacrifice on people who were "integrated with familes" and all of that bulll****. Just admit that you don't know what you are talking about.

H. This does not addres anything that I or anythnig else said. African tribes such as the Dahomey sold other Africans, but my point in is the extreme cruelty with which they treated slaves.
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