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Old 02-25-2017, 05:59 AM
 
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Africans are still extremely superstitious people, unfortunately.
In some ways, Africans today are like Europeans 500 years ago.

Albino children are also often considered bad luck and treated accordingly.
To play devil's advocate.

You have people believing in star signs, black cats, breaking a mirror, tapping on wood. Are people really that different?
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Old 02-25-2017, 09:54 AM
 
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To play devil's advocate.

You have people believing in star signs, black cats, breaking a mirror, tapping on wood. Are people really that different?
There are some in the West who still believe and do those things, mostly old people. But those are harmless types of superstition with no consequences for others. That is very different with certain superstitious beliefs in Africa. Africa never had an enlightenment. I think the problem with Africa is that most Africans are not exposed to the West and the rest of the world, only few have access to the Internet, only few can afford to travel outside Africa. So, when you are constantly dealing with your own people, logically traditions are much more stubborn as they are not challenged. I am really happy and fortunate that I happen to live in the West where traditions, rituals etc. can simply be ignored if you don't like them.
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Old 02-25-2017, 10:15 AM
 
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There are some in the West who still believe and do those things, mostly old people. But those are harmless types of superstition with no consequences for others. That is very different with certain superstitious beliefs in Africa. Africa never had an enlightenment. I think the problem with Africa is that most Africans are not exposed to the West and the rest of the world, only few have access to the Internet, only few can afford to travel outside Africa. So, when you are constantly dealing with your own people, logically traditions are much more stubborn as they are not challenged. I am really happy and fortunate that I happen to live in the West where traditions, rituals etc. can simply be ignored if you don't like them.
Ok and then what about acts carried out in the name of religion?
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Old 02-25-2017, 10:28 AM
 
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Ok and then what about acts carried out in the name of religion?

Like what?

Look, it may not be politically correct to say this, but Africans are by and large much more superstitious, religious and traditional than for instance Europeans.
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Old 02-25-2017, 10:57 AM
 
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Like what?

Look, it may not be politically correct to say this, but Africans are by and large much more superstitious, religious and traditional than for instance Europeans.
I'm not talking specifically about Europeans but more that these kinds of acts are not unique to Africa. Islamic attacks around Europe are a pretty easy example. Radical church groups like the Westboro Baptist Church.

My view is no I don't believe or agree with witchcraft. muti, ancestors etc. but to look at it objectively it's not much different to people believing their <insert believe of choice here>. It's not a case of they're necessarily backwards, it's that they're beliefs are different to what the rest of society has accepted.

The reason for me playing devil's advocate is that it I'd like people to keep their minds open to more objective discussions. Africa is often looked down on and underestimated but it's still full of potential
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Old 02-25-2017, 11:01 AM
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I'm not talking specifically about Europeans but more that these kinds of acts are not unique to Africa. Islamic attacks around Europe are a pretty easy example. Radical church groups like the Westboro Baptist Church.

My view is no I don't believe or agree with witchcraft. muti, ancestors etc. but to look at it objectively it's not much different to people believing their <insert believe of choice here>. It's not a case of they're necessarily backwards, it's that they're beliefs are different to what the rest of society has accepted.

The reason for me playing devil's advocate is that it I'd like people to keep their minds open to more objective discussions. Africa is often looked down on and underestimated but it's still full of potential
Sorry not Europeans they're USA born and bred "poor white trash".... and it comes through very thick culturally if you watch them.

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Old 02-25-2017, 11:20 AM
 
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I'm not talking specifically about Europeans but more that these kinds of acts are not unique to Africa. Islamic attacks around Europe are a pretty easy example. Radical church groups like the Westboro Baptist Church.

My view is no I don't believe or agree with witchcraft. muti, ancestors etc. but to look at it objectively it's not much different to people believing their <insert believe of choice here>. It's not a case of they're necessarily backwards, it's that they're beliefs are different to what the rest of society has accepted.

The reason for me playing devil's advocate is that it I'd like people to keep their minds open to more objective discussions. Africa is often looked down on and underestimated but it's still full of potential
Sorry, but I do think many African views, rituals, traditions, etc. are backwards and outdated. And Europeans used to have them and suffer from them, too, but gotten rid of them.

Indeed, Islam is also outdated, but it is not European. It has also not undergone enlightenment, yet.

Yes, Africa is full of potential, but it has to be used. There is no use in a potential just sitting there. Especially not since the rest of the world is doing all it can to keep Africa down via unfair trade etc. But before Africa can successfully fight damaging influence from outside, it has to cope with its internal problems, for instance the rather traditional, hierarchical type of society.

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Old 03-06-2017, 11:01 PM
 
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Africans are still extremely superstitious people, unfortunately.
In some ways, Africans today are like Europeans 500 years ago.

Albino children are also often considered bad luck and treated accordingly.
I know what you're saying doesn't apply to all Africans. It gets on my nerves when I hear Afrocentric Black Americans talking about how Africans are on some higher level of consciousness than Europeans with their thinking and worldview. I'd be curious to hear what people like Dr. Molefi Asante and Leonard Jeffries have to say about these kids being accused of being witches?
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