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Old 08-06-2018, 10:45 AM
 
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KMT is what the nativr people of that region called their nation in their native tongue (Medu Neter). Egypt is a Greek word...
Its shorthand for Kemet, right? I'm guessing the vowels were added later?
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Old 08-06-2018, 11:53 AM
 
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The Sahara is a big divider. If I look at the statues the Egyptions made they don't look like Black people
But what do "black" people look like exactly?

A Khoisan Bushman (generally speaking) looks nothing like a random Congolese dude, who looks nothing like a Sudanese guy, who looks nothing like a Nigerian guy. The people that are in Egypt today, look nothing like the population of Egypt in ancient times. Fact is, they were invaded repeatedly so there's no uniform "look" that the Pharaohs had. Some were extremely dark, some were essentially white and most were varying shades of brown to dark brown.

It's on the continent of Africa and so it's apart of African history. The average fly-over state white American has little to no Greek or Roman (Italian) ancestry but we don't say that Greek/Roman history is separate from Europe just because it's so far south, closer to Africa and far different that was happened in most of Europe during that time period.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:35 PM
 
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This is gonna sound very ignorant but aren't most native Egyptians part Greek. Like they were there 2500 years ago.
No, not at all. Kemetic civilization predates Greece by almost 4,000 years. Cleopatra was closer to the invention to the stuffed crust pizza than she was to the building of the Step Pyramid by Djoser and Imhotep. The people of KMT were indigenous Africans by their own documentation, they stated that they came from Pwenet which is around Ethiopia/Eritrea/Somalia.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:36 PM
 
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Its shorthand for Kemet, right? I'm guessing the vowels were added later?
Yeah they didn't add the vowels in the written language so we have no idea how it's spelled or said...it could be Kemit, Kamit, or any other variation.
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Old 08-06-2018, 12:42 PM
 
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But what do "black" people look like exactly?

A Khoisan Bushman (generally speaking) looks nothing like a random Congolese dude, who looks nothing like a Sudanese guy, who looks nothing like a Nigerian guy. The people that are in Egypt today, look nothing like the population of Egypt in ancient times. Fact is, they were invaded repeatedly so there's no uniform "look" that the Pharaohs had. Some were extremely dark, some were essentially white and most were varying shades of brown to dark brown.

It's on the continent of Africa and so it's apart of African history. The average fly-over state white American has little to no Greek or Roman (Italian) ancestry but we don't say that Greek/Roman history is separate from Europe just because it's so far south, closer to Africa and far different that was happened in most of Europe during that time period.



OMG is that really a question? It's on the continent doesn't mean as much since there is the Sahara Desert.


I mean why don't people from Morocco look like people from Burundi?
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:11 AM
 
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OMG is that really a question? It's on the continent doesn't mean as much since there is the Sahara Desert.


I mean why don't people from Morocco look like people from Burundi?
Xhosa and Zulu look nothing like Igbo and Yoruba people and both are south of the Sahara. That's the point. You're focusing on north Africans that are a mixture of sub-Saharan Africans, Europeans and Arabs. My point is that even if you focus only on people south of the desert, there's still a ton of diversity.

My other point is that you can't compare north Africans of today to north Africans of 5,000 years ago. There is no single "look" even in old Egyptian artwork. You're thinking of Egypt like it's England (in the Dark Ages/Middle Ages) or something. Egypt was multi-racial...more like America is today than some monoracial culture.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:25 AM
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Xhosa and Zulu look nothing like Igbo and Yoruba people and both are south of the Sahara. That's the point. You're focusing on north Africans that are a mixture of sub-Saharan Africans, Europeans and Arabs. My point is that even if you focus only on people south of the desert, there's still a ton of diversity.

My other point is that you can't compare north Africans of today to north Africans of 5,000 years ago. There is no single "look" even in old Egyptian artwork. You're thinking of Egypt like it's England (in the Dark Ages/Middle Ages) or something. Egypt was multi-racial...more like America is today than some monoracial culture.
It isn't uniform there are pockets throughout north Africa for example SUS Morocco consistently is one of the regions that shows very little mixture with sub Saharan or European. There are pockets like this and there are enclaves of people with high admixtures from Iberian peninsula and the region of Sudan. No Egypt wasn't multi-racial north Africa was tribal you were either part of the tribe or you weren't.
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Old 08-07-2018, 09:29 AM
 
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Xhosa and Zulu look nothing like Igbo and Yoruba people and both are south of the Sahara.
Not too familiar with the Zulu, but Xhosa and Igbo people are definitely more similar to black Americans, physically. They could blend in with us and vice versa.
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Old 08-07-2018, 10:12 AM
 
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Xhosa and Zulu look nothing like Igbo and Yoruba people and both are south of the Sahara. That's the point. You're focusing on north Africans that are a mixture of sub-Saharan Africans, Europeans and Arabs. My point is that even if you focus only on people south of the desert, there's still a ton of diversity.

My other point is that you can't compare north Africans of today to north Africans of 5,000 years ago. There is no single "look" even in old Egyptian artwork. You're thinking of Egypt like it's England (in the Dark Ages/Middle Ages) or something. Egypt was multi-racial...more like America is today than some monoracial culture.

Is there anything to back that up?
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Old 08-07-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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OMG is that really a question? It's on the continent doesn't mean as much since there is the Sahara Desert.


I mean why don't people from Morocco look like people from Burundi?
North Africans presently are mixed race, with various European, Subsaharan African, and Middle Eastern DNA.

Depending on where you go there are outright Black Moeth Africans. Southern Egyptians have a much higher percentage of Subsaharan heritage and are a lot Blacker than Northern Egyptians. Anwar Sadat was pretty Black.

Islam from North Africa spread deep into West and East Africa, and before Islam of course there were migrations and contracts.
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