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Old 07-06-2017, 09:21 PM
 
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What do you think of this?



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnN0RurtJWc
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Old 02-08-2018, 09:04 AM
 
Location: Ireland
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Hmm, no other responses? Ill have a bash:

Surprisingly I think this is pretty smack on the money. This does assume some European and Arab contact and not no contact so I agree that they wold have slaughtered each other over resources until there was nothing left.
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Old 02-08-2018, 12:15 PM
 
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It would be a much better place today! And I don’t mean better as in Money but the continent wouldn’t have colonial culture distractions that it suffers from today!
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Old 02-08-2018, 01:00 PM
 
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The maker of the video and others who say Africa would be just as badly off is forgetting one thing. Even if trade with outsiders would cause more conflict and cause some of the groups to depopulate the remaining, winning tribe would be better off in this scenario than colonialism. Using the Iroquois as the example, like in the video, if the Europeans had not encroached on their territory then at least they would get to live in their ancestral land instead of being confined to tiny reservations. Their numbers would also be much greater today. This is not to say the Iroquois' enemies wouldn't suffer but at least some Native Americans would be better off had colonialism not happened. The same would apply to Africa.

We also shouldn't blindly apply modern standards to define quality of life. Missionaries who visited Benin or Kumasi saw that Africans live in large, mud houses with comfortable furniture. Some even had conveniences like indoor plumbing. While these cities lack modern amenities like electricity or running water they were hardly hellholes. Sanitation and modern medicine did bring a lot of benefits, but without a lot of the turmoil associated with colonialism disease wouldn't be so rampant anyway.
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Old 02-08-2018, 06:15 PM
 
Location: Cebu, Philippines
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Madagascar wasn't, until really late in the game. It was a bizarre monarchy, which is worth reading about. Only 63 years of colonial rule.

Incredibly, though I didn't know it at the time, I probably saw people in Madagascar who had been born before colonial rule.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:29 AM
 
Location: Maryland
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If Africa was never colonized it'll look like Ethiopia and Liberia.
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Old 02-12-2018, 09:42 AM
 
Location: Katy,Texas
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If Africa was never colonized it'll look like Ethiopia and Liberia.
Both of those countries were partially colonized. If Africa was never colonized it will likely range in looks from somewhere like iran to like Afghanistan in terms of economy. Algeria and a few East African city-states could be advanced because city-states are more likely to be advanced and North Africa has been historically close to Europe or passing Europe up in development. Benin was well on it's way to becoming semi-developed before the British but I think besides North Africa.
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Old 02-12-2018, 04:39 PM
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It would be more peaceful, no question about it.
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Old 02-12-2018, 07:36 PM
 
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dxWvtMOGAhw
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Old 02-13-2018, 12:52 PM
 
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If Africa was never colonized it would still be a continent dominated by 3rd world nations. The borders and number of these nations would look very different.


Africa today is not backward because of European colonization, rather it was successfully colonized because it was backward. Unless the absence of colonialism somehow resulted in Africa finding itself with more enlightened leaders (it wouldn't have), the current condition of the continent wouldn't be much different than now.
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