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Old 08-10-2017, 01:57 PM
 
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No it didn't. It just dealt with Africa before colonialism.

Really, you think that was BEFORE slavery?
That's why I said "Africa before the Trans Atlantic slave trade" in the title. I said this to distinguish the trans Atlantic slave trade from other forms of slavery in pre-colonial Africa.
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Old 08-11-2017, 08:34 PM
 
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Africa is the oldest continent in the world and all the oldest civilzations are in Africa. I never believed the lies that Africa was nonexistent until Europeans arrived. Africa is self suffience with so many resources that the West continues to exploit. You keep people down if you want to exploit them.
Indeed it is.
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Old 08-11-2017, 09:10 PM
 
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Africa is the oldest continent in the world and all the oldest civilzations are in Africa.
Not sure if Africa is the oldest continent. I assume most continents formed around the same time. The civilizations of Sumer of modern day Iraq and the Jiroft culture of modern day Iran are believed to be older than Egypt.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:30 PM
 
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.It seems fewer people are familiar with the kingdoms and empires of Sub-Saharan Africa so I wanted to highlight those here.
Correct and sadly this includes most blacks, even those LIVING in Africa. He was correct to highlight the high standards of metallurgy visible among those from the southwest regions of Nigeria. In fact enslaved peoples from that region fetched a premium as slaves because of their high skills. Ditto those from the Akan regions of what is now Ghana. Rebellious but highly skilled so planters risked buying them.
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Old 08-12-2017, 06:42 PM
 
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The main difference between most oppressive colonizers and their victims was only that one was better armed and technologically advanced. There is no moral advantage associated with pigmentation.
Slavery existed in all societies however what was unique about the Transatlantic slave trade was the degree to which it was tied to an ideology of racism and the degree to which slaves and their descendants were trapped into a caste like vice.

It isn't the existence of Transatlantic slavery which can be condemned as it was hardly unique. It was the brutish way that its victims were humiliated and stripped of their dignity and even humanity which was unique.

It was the fact that enslaved peoples were condemned to this condition by virtue of their race, and the degree to which legal structures were established to reduce their ability for upward mobility even if some how they became free.

The slave societies in Africa itself and even in the Middle East did allow for some level of upward mobility with some slaves even rising to elevated positions in their societies. Not in the Americas where even 150 after emancipation the scars of slavery in virtually every former slave society still remain evident. Its just amazing that one can fly from Sao Paulo to Toronto and every one knows what "good hair" is. A people forced to hate who they were, and having to struggle mightily to remove this self hatred.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:27 AM
 
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Our ancestors owed us an apology for selling us out for greed.
No.Thats not the entirety of what happened.They most likely were not your ancestor but your ancestors enemies.
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Old 08-13-2017, 02:30 AM
 
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OMG...Slavery *began* when the Europeans showed up? THat's the biggest pile of BS I've ever read here.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slaver...oughout_Africa

Um, it *began* worldwide with people of all races.

Your racist post implying that slavery was some sort of white invention is grossly racist.
Slavery is implemented differenty by different cultures.European slavery was based soley on profit and you were treated as property. This was not slavery in many parts of Africa.
Also you should tone down the indignation because thats not what was said at all.
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