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Old 12-13-2017, 02:08 PM
 
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Interesting article comparing development in Somalia vs that in Botswana. Both countries share some similarities but have developed differently.



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It is in some ways surprising that Somalia is so dysfunctional as a modern ‘nation-state’. Unlike most other African countries, it is not torn apart by tribalism, it is almost unique in Sub-Saharan Africa in that the vast majority of the population shares the same language, ethnicity, culture and religion. It is ironic that the main other example of such a homogenous African country is Botswana, one of the continent’s most successful states.

Leadership and Development in Postcolonial Africa: The cases of Botswana, Somalia and Somaliland | Adimora | Leadership & Developing Societies
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Old 12-19-2017, 09:00 PM
 
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In a way both countries demonstrate that how well an African country can perform isn't necessarily tied to how diverse or monolithic it is but to how well it's governed. I used to point out how well Botswana's political and economic systems were then I'd hear that it was because it was homogeneous,so it couldn't serve as a model for more diverse African countries. But what about Somalia?

Here's what Botswana's post colonial leaders did differently:

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Unlike other countries in Africa, his administration adopted market-friendly policies to foster economic development. Khama promised low and stable taxes to mining companies, liberalized trade, and increased personal freedoms. He maintained low marginal income tax rates to deter tax evasion and corruption...

Seretse Khama - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
So is it necessary for an African country to be homogeneous in order to do what Seretse Khama did in Botswana?
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Old 12-26-2017, 08:48 AM
 
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Seems that both northern and southern sides have the best economies in Africa, except for Nigeria which is in the middle-south and growing fast as well.
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Old 12-27-2017, 12:50 PM
 
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Seems that both northern and southern sides have the best economies in Africa, except for Nigeria which is in the middle-south and growing fast as well.
Nigeria needs to reduce corruption and diversify it's economy beyond oil.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:17 PM
 
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In a way both countries demonstrate that how well an African country can perform isn't necessarily tied to how diverse or monolithic it is but to how well it's governed. I used to point out how well Botswana's political and economic systems were then I'd hear that it was because it was homogeneous,so it couldn't serve as a model for more diverse African countries. But what about Somalia?

Here's what Botswana's post colonial leaders did differently:

So is it necessary for an African country to be homogeneous in order to do what Seretse Khama did in Botswana?
The key point is political stability. Botswana has had that.
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Old 01-01-2018, 01:22 PM
 
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Nigeria needs to reduce corruption and diversify it's economy beyond oil.
Easier said than done. The diversification part has to come first - because oil revs are used to buy off various groups of the polity. Corruption is a symptom, rather than a cause.

Background - Nigeria used to be a great agricultural producer/exporter of crops at independence. And they were self-sufficient in food. The problem was that with the oil boom led to a disinvestment in the ag sector - so when the petro boom turned to bust, the country was importing its food with foreign exchange, further exacerbating its debt burden.
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Old 01-01-2018, 02:01 PM
 
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Basically, the author of the paper wants to glide right over Somalia's embrace of Socialism, instead focusing on leadership styles rather than choices in policy. At least that's my understanding, given the execrable prose style of its author as well as the liberal use of gobbledegook.

The author demonstrates bias in the opening paragraph:

"By disregarding trade economics and focusing solely on social development, this study hopes to bypass such criticism." This should be a huge red flag to any objective reader. How do you ignore economic policy when it comes to understanding the economic success of a nation?

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"Scholars have routinely identified weak and ineffective institutions as the root cause of underdevelopment across Africa. Such findings, which place emphasis on ‘institutional systems’ and ‘state mechanisms’, too often neglect the critical leadership dimensions of development challenges." This is a true headscratcher. For it is the primary job of leadership in a newly independent state to establish the institutional systems and state mechanisms that will serve the country. One gets the feeling that if the subject of this article was about the death of a patient rather than a nation such as Somalia, the author would ignore the fact that the doctor chose not to run an initial battery of tests.

And more gibberish:

"Far removed from capitalist agendas, a rather simple, albeit contentious, definition of development will be adopted: Development is tantamount to ‘Living Well and Living Long’." Does this make any sense? However, the phrase 'Far removed from capitalist agendas' is the tell on the point the author is trying to make as if leadership and policy are divorced from one another. Namely that the string of fiats flowing from the presidential palace is more important than choosing an economic system and developing the institutions to support it.

Yes, Botswana had the good fortune of finding diamonds. But the mere presence of mineral riches doesn't correlate to societal riches. All one has to do is look at a country such as Congo, an economic basketcase afloat in mineral wealth. Yet while Somalia and the Congo are failed states, Botswana has succeeded. This is due to the fact that the state has mostly adhered to the rule of law, respected property rights, and created a fertile ground for foreign investment. This formula has been repeated successfully in a host of ethnically and culturally diverse states from Malaysia to Canada to Belgium. And Botswana isn't exactly homogeneous, either.

Here's the thing I don't understand. Time after time, the embrace of Socialism leads to the long-term decline of a country's economic fortunes, yet Socialism's manifest flaws always get glossed over. Its apologists are always ready to make excuses for it, from tribalism to outside agitators. All you have to do is watch the collapse of Venezuela from South America's strongest economy into absolute chaos in a period of twenty years.

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Old 01-01-2018, 11:51 PM
 
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The key point is political stability. Botswana has had that.
The key point is that the top 0.1% ruling class are forced to no longer rule with an iron fist and instead open up for progress and change if they sense that the nation is under a strategic military threat. Botswana is surrounded by massively more powerful South Africa. It could easily have been swallowed up like Namibia unless it built an economic and military deterrence.
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Old 01-02-2018, 07:29 PM
 
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Here's the thing I don't understand. Time after time, the embrace of Socialism leads to the long-term decline of a country's economic fortunes, yet Socialism's manifest flaws always get glossed over. Its apologists are always ready to make excuses for it, from tribalism to outside agitators. All you have to do is watch the collapse of Venezuela from South America's strongest economy into absolute chaos in a period of twenty years.
As far as socialism vs capitalism it's a matter of degrees for both.

All developed countries,including the U.S,have mixed economies of some sort. It's just a matter of different countries sorting out what the private sector should handle and what the gov't can better provide. Generally the gov't handles things that are too large and expensive for the private sector to handle. The gov't should also be moderate with most regulations.
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