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Old 09-10-2018, 02:33 PM
 
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Just like the left leaning media outlets dismissing it and playing to their "base", namely the good folks in places like wealthy and liberal Santa Clara and San Mateo Counties, California. Close to 1,500 farmers and their family members brutally murdered (and usually tortured first) since the 1994 elections. Its real and worth bringing the world's attention to.
Hmmm. Doing a good job for your right wing bosses I see. Spreading fake news. I bet you were one who spread the lie that over 80% of the whites in the USA who are murdered were killed by blacks.
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Old 09-10-2018, 02:37 PM
 
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Okay so I've done a lot of research and have a better understanding of the politics and economic situation of Joburg and SA as a whole. I realize that there is a high crime rate but most of it is concentrated in areas of poverty (Townships that were systematically created to benefit from cheap black labore.
This is a fact (and is also true in the USA) and yet many whites in SA and the USA want to pretend that the main activity of blacks is to murder whites. In fact most black criminal activity is directed towards other blacks.
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Old 10-16-2018, 03:09 PM
 
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Safe or not, one thing is certain, the suburbs of Johannesburg are very handsome. Makes me want to live there, but the safety situation is enough to put me off.

It's not as if these are small areas. Huge swaths of the suburbs look like the areas in the photos below.

Beautiful places! South Africans have very good taste.


https://goo.gl/maps/nuGZTSRAtWG2


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https://goo.gl/maps/YSWt6L5PTw92


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https://goo.gl/maps/VKJep1VZPgK2
Looks like California!
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:17 PM
 
Location: DC metropolitan area
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Looks like California!
But can you safely walk down the street? That's the big issue in Johannesburg/S.A.
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Old 10-16-2018, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
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I'm a current college student and i'm really interested in doing study abroad in Johannesburg, but I keep hearing that it's really dangerous and has a high murder rate. Is this just propaganda or is it true? Is the crime all over the city or just in certain areas? Is it safe to walk and use public transit there?
I can only relay one story from several years ago. The colleague of a colleague went to Johannesburg for work. He was warned by the hotel staff not to go out at night. He didn't believe them. He went out and was murdered for his shoes and wallet.
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Old 10-22-2018, 03:50 AM
 
Location: Ireland
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This poor guy found out the answer to the question of "Is South Africa Really that Bad?" the hard way. Unfortunately this is far too common...

Missing Chilean tourist found dead in KZN morgue
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Old 10-23-2018, 04:33 PM
 
Location: Cannes
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Cape Town was superb, no more violent than a developed city its size.
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Old 10-24-2018, 06:14 PM
 
Location: Taipei
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I have a friend who did student exchange at Stellenbosch and he got robbed just a few weeks prior to coming back. It really tainted his experience there for a while as he was really loving it. In fact he still talks about how much he loved South Africa, though his stories never really sounded all that appealing to me. The complete lack of public transportation doesn't sound very nice. He said he had to go everywhere with Uber. Apparently the buses and the trains are very dangerous.
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Old 10-25-2018, 12:16 AM
 
Location: Evanston & Lake Forest, Illinois
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I have a friend who did student exchange at Stellenbosch and he got robbed just a few weeks prior to coming back. It really tainted his experience there for a while as he was really loving it. In fact he still talks about how much he loved South Africa, though his stories never really sounded all that appealing to me. The complete lack of public transportation doesn't sound very nice. He said he had to go everywhere with Uber. Apparently the buses and the trains are very dangerous.
The Gautrain is not dangerous at all. South Africa is a suburban country. Driving is the primary mode of transit. It's usually the poor that don't own cars. Everyone else does.

As far as safety, South Africa does have a crime problem, both petty and violent. However, taking simple precautions will help you avoid any trouble. I've never had a problem staying in South Africa. My South African relatives have no first-hand horror stories.
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Old 10-25-2018, 05:31 AM
 
Location: DC metropolitan area
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The Gautrain is not dangerous at all. South Africa is a suburban country. Driving is the primary mode of transit. It's usually the poor that don't own cars. Everyone else does.

As far as safety, South Africa does have a crime problem, both petty and violent. However, taking simple precautions will help you avoid any trouble. I've never had a problem staying in South Africa. My South African relatives have no first-hand horror stories.
From what I've seen and read, people with any kind of wealth in S.A. live in fortified dwellings... either in gated communities or in single houses with lots of defenses (fences / bars on windows / alarms)… at least in urban areas. I'd like to think rural areas are safer, but it seems it is also not safe there either. As for transportation, people of means seem to take their own cars from their fortified / protected homes to go to work, do shopping.

On this thread, people getting killed are those who take their chances "out in the open air"... tenting, taking a stroll from their hotel... things that a lot of us take for granted, but that South Africans can't. There have also been many publicized cases of farmers' homes being broken into either in full day or at night and the inhabitants killed... even with fortifications / protections.
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