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Old 11-30-2018, 10:15 PM
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Why does it matter what he looks like? So if he looked full Portuguese or mixed-race would you still consider him? And if he was 50% or 100% Portuguese by blood would you consider him Portuguese?
He does't look like a Portuguese person to me he look like a Black guy to me. I'm not sure why that is bothersome to you. If he looked full Portuguese to me it's because he would be full Portuguese by ancestry. If he looked mixed race I would see a mixed race person. What is your point am I not supposed to notice what I see? Some people look and are full Portuguese ancestry but they clearly are not when you interact with them. Phenotype is just part of it.
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Old 11-30-2018, 10:51 PM
 
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He does't look like a Portuguese person to me he look like a Black guy to me. I'm not sure why that is bothersome to you. If he looked full Portuguese to me it's because he would be full Portuguese by ancestry. If he looked mixed race I would see a mixed race person. What is your point am I not supposed to notice what I see? Some people look and are full Portuguese ancestry but they clearly are not when you interact with them. Phenotype is just part of it.

Do you consider your cousin the same race as you and other Portuguese people? If you saw someone who looked mixed-race, and someone who was 3/4Portuguese, and 1/4 African would you see and consider them Portuguese or mixed-race over your cousin?
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Old 12-01-2018, 12:33 AM
 
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Do you consider your cousin the same race as you and other Portuguese people? If you saw someone who looked mixed-race, and someone who was 3/4Portuguese, and 1/4 African would you see and consider them Portuguese or mixed-race over your cousin?
You cannot infer the percentage of admixture by the way someone looks. If you are mixed you are mixed. It does not matter what the proportions are, you are still mixed.

You are Portuguese if you are a citizen of Portugal. Portuguese is not a race; it's a nationality.

Your ethnicity is reflected by the family and community in which you were reared. If you were not reared in a Portuguese family and community you are not ethically Portuguese, either. Feel free to explore your Portuguese heritage, but doing so will not make you Portuguese, any more than my Huguenot ancestors make me French or my German ancestors make me German or my Irish ancestors make me Irish or my Scottish ancestors make me Scottish. I am an American who is the result of admixture of people from all those areas. Of all those countries I would most love to visit Scotland, but I do not describe myself as Scots-American.

The genetic origins of the Iberian Peninsula:

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spa...ugal_dna.shtml
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Old 12-01-2018, 03:47 AM
 
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I'm not saying that "african Americans" are Melanesians or Micronesians...I'm talking more the appearance of the people that were seen but I just used those two groups as a point of reference. The only thing that I'm bringing out is that there a compelling argument that some people that were phenotypically given an "African" like description. It's already documented that Americans were shipped to Africa as slaves so I do think it deserves an ear. I still have some research to do on the topic but this argument is here to stay and will only get more traction. I'm just going on the evidence.
Again, share that source
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:09 AM
 
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If you can't post a source thats credible in a Collage science or history report, it's not credible, your reading conspiracy theories.

And that's issue people who are into conspiracy theory make excuses for why there argument isn't published and accepted by schools, historians, scientists and etc. then rely on a rinky dink blog,

Seriously Tree conspiracy theory that native Americans were black reply another conspiracy theory that DNA science is not accurate cause government apparently doesn't want us blacks to know that native Americans were black.

Sesh
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:17 AM
 
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Why does it matter what he looks like? So if he looked full Portuguese or mixed-race would you still consider him? And if he was 50% or 100% Portuguese by blood would you consider him Portuguese?
Since you like questions

Dude why not walk out side and say your a dragon if your majority Ancestry doesn't matter. It's the same thing... your making something that not majority Ancestry. So why not say you a Dragon, Cow, or butterfly?
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Old 12-01-2018, 04:54 AM
 
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Why does it matter what he looks like? So if he looked full Portuguese or mixed-race would you still consider him? And if he was 50% or 100% Portuguese by blood would you consider him Portuguese?
AzureKite, since it seems you want to embrace all things Portuguese, have you ever considered immigrating to Portugal and giving up (renounce) your US citizenship? Then you can be an American-Portuguese!
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Old 12-01-2018, 05:44 AM
 
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AzureKite, since it seems you want to embrace all things Portuguese, have you ever considered immigrating to Portugal and giving up (renounce) your US citizenship? Then you can be an American-Portuguese!
I'm just proud of my Portuguese roots and coming from a great country originally
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Old 12-01-2018, 05:47 AM
 
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Since you like questions

Dude why not walk out side and say your a dragon if your majority Ancestry doesn't matter. It's the same thing... your making something that not majority Ancestry. So why not say you a Dragon, Cow, or butterfly?


Do you think majority ancestry determines what you are?
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Old 12-01-2018, 05:51 AM
 
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You cannot infer the percentage of admixture by the way someone looks. If you are mixed you are mixed. It does not matter what the proportions are, you are still mixed.

You are Portuguese if you are a citizen of Portugal. Portuguese is not a race; it's a nationality.

Your ethnicity is reflected by the family and community in which you were reared. If you were not reared in a Portuguese family and community you are not ethically Portuguese, either. Feel free to explore your Portuguese heritage, but doing so will not make you Portuguese, any more than my Huguenot ancestors make me French or my German ancestors make me German or my Irish ancestors make me Irish or my Scottish ancestors make me Scottish. I am an American who is the result of admixture of people from all those areas. Of all those countries I would most love to visit Scotland, but I do not describe myself as Scots-American.

The genetic origins of the Iberian Peninsula:

https://www.eupedia.com/genetics/spa...ugal_dna.shtml


I'm not from Portugal but I'm Portuguese by blood, and ancestry. I'm American so I'm Portuguese-American, or Luso-American. Learning about my Portuguese heritage is exploring my history.
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