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That is not the point. As I said, Germans are aware that some cultural aspects of Europe and hence the entire West go back to ancient Greece (among others), but Germans do not claim to be related to Greeks, they do not hijack ancient Greece in order to feel like they are or were important.
I think that there might be a growing discussion among North Africans about their connection to the African continent. As the Algerian stated Middle Eastern Arabs don't always identify with them, and like it or not, aspects of sub Saharan African culture can be found within the cultures of these nations, especially Morocco. This because of ancient migrations and the slave trade.
Maybe the discussion is mainly among those with exposure to Europe where they find that they aren't any better off than are the sub Saharan Africans, and might even be perceived in a more negative light. Many also live in neighborhoods with high North/West African populations and face similar problems as they offspring of immigrants.
Frustratedintelligence, I hate to be the bearer of bad news but Latin America isn’t black. They have no black ancestry. None. Tell me of the blacks who live in Mexico. El Salvador. Honduras. Argentina. Paraguay. Uruguay? The blacks who came to the Americas because of European slave traders are descendants of Africans. Nothing more and nothing less. Take it from someone whose been to the region many times. Those small communities of African slave descendants are VERY isolated from the rest of the countries they populate. You know why? The governments want them to die off. Latin America is very racist to Africans. Latin America has more in common with Europeans than Africans. Africans make up a VERY small percentage of the population in Latin America. They are there because of European slave traders. They aren’t descended from Africans. Stop spreading fake news. Majority of Latin America’s look vastly European. Now if you’re talking Haiti and Belize and the Caribbean, they may speak another language but that doesn’t make them Latino. They are African. I can speak Chinese but that doesn’t make me Chinese.
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I'm unable to read that link but none of this is surprising based on opinions I've read Egyptians even within North Africa are viewed as a unique culture by other North Africans and that is how they see themselves. Caucasoid phenotypes are preferred as a whole in the region and they don't have a PC culture and aren't interested in importing one, some of the comments I've come across in dialogue on some forums amongst North Africans are very ethnocentric. That's just how it is I laugh at the AA's on this board who think they have some brotherhood with Egyptians that pan-Africanism stuff just doesn't fly there based on what I gather.
Id be curious to see some of that commentary. Care to share links??
Several dozen Egyptians I spoke to when visiting Egypt some years ago proudly referred to themselves as "Egyptians" -- not North African, not sub-Saharan African, not Middle Eastern, not Mediterranean, not Arab, not Berber. Just uniquely, solely Egyptian.
Not saying they were right or wrong, but that's what they clearly considered themselves.
I know of several AA tourists who went to Egypt and also of an AA college tour group, they were of course considered Americans and had no problems. What was interesting was when the college group went down to the Nubian section of Egypt
the Nubian said "You are Americans? wow you are dark like us!"
She is a Coptic Egyptian part of her Coptic ancestry is from Upper Egypt and part from lower Egypt. The Coptics from lower Egypt have substantially lower amounts of sub-Saharan African admixture about 5%-10% than the overall typical Egyptian at about 20% the Coptics from Upper Egypt are more similar to basic Egyptians and some with even more Sub-Saharan African. The Coptics from lower Egypt are the closest thing to the ancient DNA samples found in Egypt thus far with much lower input from the Arabian peninsula and sub-Saharan Africa.
She is a Coptic Egyptian part of her Coptic ancestry is from Upper Egypt and part from lower Egypt. The Coptics from lower Egypt have substantially lower amounts of sub-Saharan African admixture about 5%-10% than the overall typical Egyptian at about 20% the Coptics from Upper Egypt are more similar to basic Egyptians and some with even more Sub-Saharan African. The Coptics from lower Egypt are the closest thing to the ancient DNA samples found in Egypt thus far with much lower input from the Arabian peninsula and sub-Saharan Africa.
Do you have a good source for her Coptic heritage? I ask because the Wikipedia article specifically says such claims are not substantiated. Thanks.
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