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Old 06-16-2019, 02:34 PM
 
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Probably not many but they are obnoxious and vocal they troll all of the Moroccan videos I can see how the north Africans are fed up with them the interesting thing is some of them want acceptance and I can tell you that for the most part intensively disliked by the north Africans, they'll never accept them. They just make themselves more and more hated the more they claim this heritage that doesn't belong to them.
Internet trolls one one thing.

Heritage is not another and itís not up to you white man to decide who has what heritage.

Truthfully most African and Asian nations have a heavy Muslim presence, and Iím sure most people in the African diaspora have Muslim ancestors at some point.

Now Islam spread via conquest violence, and slavery. Iím no big fan of organized religion.

But itís nit your place to tell people of color what aspect if their ancestry to identify with. Butt out!
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Old 06-16-2019, 03:36 PM
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Also the Nation of Islam, United House of Prayer for All People, Father Divine Peace Mission, Daddy Grace, Prophet Jones.

A lot of these sects and cults developed among marginalized people during the Depression in America. Due to Jim Crow and
De Facto Segregation and socially being made to feel that they are NOT part of America, people came along and took advantage of the social situation of Black Americans at that time. They played on the social alienation of Black Americans,
from the general American Society. So they invented exotic, mythical origins of Black Americans, or with the Christian type
cults, they were the chosen people who traced it down from Jesus to Paul down to whoever their leader was.

The people who started these groups understood human psychology and knew they had a ready-made audience for
this type of stuff with some Black Americans. Many of these groups go back to the 1930s, so today you still have
people and families who were raised in this stuff, these might be the people who jump on the North African message
boards today.


Possibly one thing I've learned is that many of groups in North Africa are definitely tribal and strictly patrilineal and there is a segment that is deep in Berberism. They take lineage very seriously and a few that are extreme in their beliefs would decapitate of few of these guys mouthing off. I have no doubt about that. I'm on one of those groups they like me they don't like any Black Americans claiming their heritage. That about sums it up.
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Old 06-16-2019, 04:10 PM
 
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And they must be a proud folk ! Don't know how many times I've seen road signs that say "Mowers ahead"
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Old 06-17-2019, 02:54 AM
 
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Possibly one thing I've learned is that many of groups in North Africa are definitely tribal and strictly patrilineal and there is a segment that is deep in Berberism. They take lineage very seriously and a few that are extreme in their beliefs would decapitate of few of these guys mouthing off. I have no doubt about that. I'm on one of those groups they like me they don't like any Black Americans claiming their heritage. That about sums it up.
This has morecto do with you not liking Black Americans.

Iím sure with all the guns Americans of all races have no one would need to be worried about decapitation. Bullets have much longer reaches than guns.

Plus North Africans have much greater problems in their lives than to give a **** about what some Black Americans do. Libya is a wreck. Algeria and Egypt are not spectacular. North Africans are too busy immigrating to Europe to Concern themselves about African Americans.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:05 PM
 
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1. First of all only a tiny significant percent of ADOS people call themselves "Moors." Mostly fringe group Hoteps.

2. Whether you agree the Moors were "Black" or not the terms etymology meant "Black" according to the Greeks and Romans.
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"North African, Berber, one of the race dwelling in Barbary," late 14c., from Old French More, from Medieval Latin Morus, from Latin Maurus "inhabitant of Mauretania" (Roman northwest Africa, a region now corresponding to northern Algeria and Morocco), from Greek Mauros, perhaps a native name, or else cognate with mauros "black" (but this adjective only appears in late Greek and may as well be from the people's name as the reverse).

Also applied to the Arabic conquerors of Spain. Being a dark people in relation to Europeans, their name in the Middle Ages was a synonym for "Negro;" later (16c.-17c.); being the nearest Muslims to Western Europe, it was used indiscriminately of Muslims (Persians, Arabs, etc.) but especially those in India. Cognate with Dutch Moor, German Mohr, Danish Maurer, Spanish Moro, Italian Moro. Related: Mooress.
[url]https://www.etymonline.com/word/moor[/url]


Either way this thread is silly because I bet you 99% of ADOS don't even call themselves "Moors" and a 75% don't even know who the Moors were.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:08 PM
 
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These groups like the Kemetic,Hebrews,Moors,Aboriginals etc work on some blacks for one big reason. We Black-Americans lack direct African cultural influences. We really don't have many things in our culture here in the U.S that people can easily highlight as being African. So this makes it easier for these groups to just invent some new black thing that's not related to our actual African backgrounds. If Black Americans had some type of African drumming tradition or an African rooted religion in our culture then we would see fewer people trying to invent some exotic groups like the ones I mentioned.
You probably live in a very urban area of the South or the northeast like most these ADOS posters. If you go to the rural areas of the South you can find clear Sahel African influence. And I'm not talking the Gullahs of coastal South Carolina dna Georgia. Heck our cowbow culture is Fulani influenced. And I know many ADOS people down south who still practice Hoodoo.
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Old 07-30-2019, 08:10 PM
 
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Possibly one thing I've learned is that many of groups in North Africa are definitely tribal and strictly patrilineal and there is a segment that is deep in Berberism. They take lineage very seriously and a few that are extreme in their beliefs would decapitate of few of these guys mouthing off. I have no doubt about that. I'm on one of those groups they like me they don't like any Black Americans claiming their heritage. That about sums it up.

Most ADOS/Black-Americans won't ever wanna trade places with North Africans such as Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians and especially not Libyans. Sure you guys have a rich ancient history but that's where it ends.
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Old 07-31-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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Probably not many but they are obnoxious and vocal they troll all of the Moroccan videos I can see how the north Africans are fed up with them the interesting thing is some of them want acceptance and I can tell you that for the most part intensively disliked by the north Africans, they'll never accept them. They just make themselves more and more hated the more they claim this heritage that doesn't belong to them.
As a black American myself, I agree that a very vocal minority of us make us look like clowns online to the entire world. A small subset of Black Americans online are known for harassing any outside group even remotely associated with Africa:

- Demanding/shaming Dominicans, SA Cape Coloureds and certain other groups into identifying as black (yes - many have high or even majority afro ancestry but it’s none of our business and has zero affect on us what they choose to identify as. Click on ANY popular YouTube video about Dominicans and you’ll see the harassment. I dont fully blame us for this one since the One Drop Rule was created by whites and pushed on us during slavery but we need to remember that different countries have different racial classification systems; and not everyone has to think the same.)

- Claiming Egypt as a solely black civilization. Bantu blacks MAY have had some involvement but the evidence seems limited at this point. Plus, why wholeheartedly claim a disputed civilization when there were so many awesome civilizations throughout West African history (like Mansa Musa of the Ghana Empire who was the richest man to ever live. Black Americans have a massive global influence and have added so much to pop culture despite being a small group so we have a lot to feel proud about so it bewilders me why many resort to this). Just not a good look!

- Claiming to be Israelites. These are the worst ones on the list. Usually they’re very poor and dusty standing on street corners screaming at ppl and shouting hateful/racist/homophobic/offensive rhetoric. It’s ok to be pro-whatever ethnicity you are but they have no plans to increase the social standing of their people so they’re just wasting their time. They’re militant nature and false-confidence attracts some women but they’re known to be very abusive and mysogonistic towards them.

It’s just all so embarassing so I don’t blame outsiders for feeling this way towards us. Just remember that it’s a small minority of us. Lol, most black Americans (and Americans in general) could care less about anything outside of the USA and a select few closely-linked countries.

(But to answer the OP’s question, I’ve never heard of the Mauri ppl...though I’ve heard of the Moors who’ve invaded parts of Southern Europe back in the day).

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Old 07-31-2019, 12:00 PM
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Most ADOS/Black-Americans won't ever wanna trade places with North Africans such as Moroccans, Algerians, Tunisians and especially not Libyans. Sure you guys have a rich ancient history but that's where it ends.

I'm not a North African I'm an ethnic Portuguese person with dual US and Portuguese citizenship. The various North African groups also have very interesting cultures.
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Old 08-02-2019, 12:35 PM
 
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Many of them are lost and confused. They are looking for an identity. The Moors who came into Europe were in fact black African, and yes many of the Moors were in place in North America prior to Columbus. That does not mean however that this is the lineage of most Afro Americans.
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