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View Poll Results: Of the top 10 most powerful emerging African countries, which one do you root for its success the mo
Egypt 1 3.57%
Nigeria 10 35.71%
South Africa 2 7.14%
Ethiopia 4 14.29%
Algeria 0 0%
Morocco 2 7.14%
Kenya 3 10.71%
Ghana 5 17.86%
Tanzania 1 3.57%
Côte d'Ivoire 0 0%
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Old 08-11-2019, 06:58 AM
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AntionoR,

I don't represent SA's government and I don't believe in anything the CIA publishes. Am not an expert on SA, but in many places in Africa $13k annually is more than enough to live comfortably. Shelter, food, education and the opportunity to work mobilizes an economy.
True. We can't compare $13k in South Africa to, say, $13k in the United States. Different economies, costs of living, expenses, etc.
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Old 08-11-2019, 10:37 AM
 
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AntionoR,

I don't represent SA's government and I don't believe in anything the CIA publishes. Am not an expert on SA, but in many places in Africa $13k annually is more than enough to live comfortably. Shelter, food, education and the opportunity to work mobilizes an economy.
That's $13,000 in Purchasing Power Parity, which does takes into account local purchasing power and market conditions to take away from market exchange rate. The latter can be manipulated by governments and doesn't take into account that purchasing power is different in many places (in this case, $13,000 if it was a market exchange rate would afford a different standard of living in say the USA vs SA).

South Africa needs to be richer to be able to offer a dignified lifestyle even to its poorest citizens vis-a-vis other countries. If a person looks at another aspects, countries with developed economies have more millionaires per capita than countries with underdeveloped economies. Generally, the more developed a place, the more millionaires it has. There is a correlation between the two.

CIA World Factbook is a convenient source, but any sources used for SA show a similar level.
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Old 08-11-2019, 11:26 AM
 
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AntionoR,

What are we communicating about? I'd like to keep up with the purpose of the thread it shouldn't be all about SA. I'm not the ambassador for SA (nevertheless a good discussion I just don't want to hijack the thread).

SA has a high unemployment rate with many of its people still living in shacks. SA is a very wealthy country that has diamonds and gold as leading commodities in addition to its farming industry which the majority of SAs don't benefit from only 1% enjoy the wealth, comparatively speaking its GDP is around $350B annually and will be north of $400B in 2020 and is one of the wealthiest countries in Africa. SA is very developed what are you trying to say (it amongst the most developed in all of Africa)? Education and the opportunity for employment is the issue at this point. How much of the $350B do the people not included in the 1% have access to?

You can't compare $13k in the USA to the living standard to that of SA (I think people will take money over not making any, also many people in USA live off of the $13k too and I'd rather have that income in SA over that in the USA). Again industries must be established that is inclusive of impoverished people giving them the opportunity to get long term jobs and or create businesses or you have all sets of issues like robberies when there are such imbalances. The government can aid in the aforementioned disparities (especially around business development export/import and giving back lands taken during the apartheid area and tearing down shacks and redeveloping areas that have them thus providing jobs) but its the people that have to build up the country and must share the same mindset of success. There has to be a balance with opportunity and this balance fundamentally starts with education.

I root for all African country's success.
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Old Today, 08:43 PM
 
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How about all of them. It is just too much wealth in the form of natural resources and all of Africa can win. The colonizers have stolen for far too long, but government corruption from natives does not help.
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