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Old 01-12-2011, 04:59 PM
 
Location: Moving from Carrabelle to Bethel
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I will be relocating to Bethel at the beginning of summer breakup on the Kuskokwim. Some of my time will be spent visiting Oscarville, Napaskiak, Napakiak, and Northeast to Tuluksak.


I would appreciate any information as to the depth of the river and other navigational info on using the river for travel. I will be new to the area and am finding it difficult to access river maps with sound readings.

I will have a draft of about 3 feet

Thank you
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:08 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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I will be relocating to Bethel at the beginning of summer breakup on the Kuskokwim. Some of my time will be spent visiting Oscarville, Napaskiak, Napakiak, and Northeast to Tuluksak.


I would appreciate any information as to the depth of the river and other navigational info on using the river for travel. I will be new to the area and am finding it difficult to access river maps with sound readings.

I will have a draft of about 3 feet

Thank you
Not to worry, they run barges with 5 foot draft all the way to McGrath. Sometimes they get 8 foot draft vessels pretty darn far up the river too.

The tide at Bethel is something like 3 feet, so a set of tide tables might be useful too. In fact, the big thing about river navigation around Bethel is that besides being a river, it does have that tide which makes it a lot different than a river without tide.

I don't know that a map with sound readings would be useful anyway! If you're a blue water sailor, the muddy Kuskokwim is going to be an adventure in learning to read a river! It took American and European sailors many decades to find a channel through the lower delta, back in the 1800's. Your best bet, under any circumstance, is to either ask a local to show you the channel, or to simply follow the barges headed in the same direction.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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I don't know of any river maps either. I just stay away from the shallows.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:14 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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What will you be doing here anyways? Might give Crowley Petroleum a call here in Bethel, they are the main fuel haulers to and from the Bethel area.
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:43 PM
 
Location: Barrow, Alaska
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I don't know of any river maps either. I just stay away from the shallows.
You gotta put smilies on things like that!

But tell me, it used to be that down in front of the Chevron tank farm there was a really deep spot, like about 125 feet deep. Is that still there?

There's a spot just above Aniak, where that rock bluff is on the left side going up river, that is a about 35 feet deep. But just at the other end of the island at the end of that bluff, about the same distance down river from the village, is the place where it's usually only a out 5-1/2 to 6 feet deep in the late summer.

Up river is different though, because it's easy to know where the shallow places are. At least that's true for upriver guys...
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Old 01-12-2011, 08:54 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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Sometimes you think it's a deep spot because there's a cut bank there, upriver that's not always the case. The river up from Akiak gets confusing to most, you think the channel is supposed to be where the bank is, but both sides of the river is bank!
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Old 01-12-2011, 09:20 PM
 
Location: Bethel, Alaska
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http://xpda.com/nauticalcharts/16304...O%20BETHEL.png
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Old 01-13-2011, 04:53 PM
 
Location: Moving from Carrabelle to Bethel
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Floyd_Davidson;Not to worry, they run barges with 5 foot draft all the way to McGrath. Sometimes they get 8 foot draft vessels pretty darn far up the river too.

The tide at Bethel is something like 3 feet, so a set of tide tables might be useful too.

Thank you for the info. In doing research of the area I did find barge traffic to Bethel. I was concerned though of the narrowing further up and tributaries that I may have to follow to dock with the villages nearby. I'm encouraged by your report that travel to McGrath is possible and perhaps beyond some.

Although bottom readings can change and move especially in a river flow they do give somewhat of a heads up on conditions such as bars and obstacles. This coupled with Tide tables is helpful as you mentioned and I will certainly take the advice of seeking local guidance.[/font]
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:27 PM
 
Location: Moving from Carrabelle to Bethel
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warptman,

Thanks for the map! The points that you and Floyd have graciously taken the time to share will be helpful as I plan for eventual trips.

You asked what I will be doing.

Firstly, I appreciate what the Bible has to offer those who would like to have answers to questions about it and our purpose in life. Not a Bible thumper, don't push myself on anyone and I don't sell anything. So, I basically offer freely what time I have to those who would like to learn more. I will be engaged in this work as I visit the different villages.

Secondly, I am a Broadband geek and as I visit the villages I will be compiling information on how best to implement coverage in these areas.

I know, I know, I better get a day job. Well, I am working on that and if successful I will be moving to Bethel permanently. Will share it later in my Bio if anyone’s interested.

Thanks again
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:30 PM
 
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Warpt just out of curiosity are the different locations where the snowmachines & other casualties of winter that went to the bottom of the river marked on charts or are their locations "known" knowledge?
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