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Old 04-12-2011, 01:47 PM
 
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...but for you to call everyone who happens to be buying food at a store (and doesn't vote for the tea party) an idiot, isn't fair either. Thanks.
This is hilarious. Now you're assuming that I support the "tea party". Thanks for the laugh.

Though I will say that there are people with fairly conservative political leanings who live a "greener" lifestyle than you do.

Annie, things have not changed in Alaska since the last time you came to this forum. The answers are still the same, and like last time, you don't like the answers.

In my part of Alaska, the traditional Native diet is one of the healthiest in the world. Wild SE blueberries have four times the anti oxidants than blueberries grown commercially. Our wild fish...well, there is none better anywhere. Beach greens...free for the picking and much better for you than anything you could buy in the store. Of course we utilize the grocery store for some things but personally I don't see how anyone could be healthy if their only food source was the local market....and that tofu in the local market has a much larger "carbon footprint" than the wild salmon steak I'm having for dinner tonight.

There's a good reason you won't find any meccas of urban liberalism (and I suspect that's what you actually mean by the term "progressive") anywhere in Alaska--it's because it doesn't work here.
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:42 PM
 
Location: Manhattan Island
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^ I can't rep you, but that was an awesome post.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:41 PM
 
Location: Palmer
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Annie...Alaska is just different in a lot of ways. It's a strange mix of people. It probably is the most socialist state in the US as Floyd said. I'm on the opposite end of the political spectrum but I do agree with the common ownership of the resources and in the permanent fund. The only problem I have with the permanent fund is that I think that all of the money the state gets should go to the people and then the state should tax it back. I think the people would be more involved in the government if that were the case.

Anyway...go ahead and come up. I like granola-crunchers! I've got a few in my immediate family and we get along great. I tell them that I only kill the weak and sickly animals when I am hunting...just like all the other predators.

I agree with Met that Talkeetna or Ester might be the most progressive. Remember KABN radio Met?
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:57 PM
 
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Yeah, Marty....the last real radio station, lol.

Oh and Annie....I didn't call anyone an "idiot" for buying food at the local grocery markets; I called them idjits if they think that doing so exclusively is a more sustainable and "progressive" way to go than following the principles of the 100 mile diet as much as reasonably possible.

Also, if you ever do make it to Alaska, I'm sure you'll find that politically...most people aren't drawn along the same partisan lines as in N. California, for instance. You'll also find more tolerance for the beliefs of others than what you must be used to wherever it is that you live, if your comments are any example of that. I neither hunt (don't eat red meat) nor vote for anyone within ideological miles of the tea party.

Personally I think that the only place in Alaska where you'll find any sizable community of urban liberals is Anchorage because those types don't survive long and the more rural areas.
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Old 04-12-2011, 03:59 PM
 
Location: Homer Alaska
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Alaska and it's people are big enough to accomodate all kinds of people and beliefs.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:10 PM
 
Location: AK
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alaska does have some big people...
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:17 PM
 
Location: Homer Alaska
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In Alaska there is a lot of progressives-progressively independent, stubborn, self-reliant, out of the box thinkers...nothing to do with politics really more of an adaptive strategy shaped to the vast spaces, climate, lack of infrastructure, small populations statewide, local econonomic conditions. The best advice is to park the attitude at the borders and experience Alaska for what it is-a unique, incredible opportunity to experience the last frontier.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:44 PM
 
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In Alaska there is a lot of progressives-progressively independent, stubborn, self-reliant, out of the box thinkers...nothing to do with politics really more of an adaptive strategy shaped to the vast spaces, climate, lack of infrastructure, small populations statewide, local econonomic conditions. The best advice is to park the attitude at the borders and experience Alaska for what it is-a unique, incredible opportunity to experience the last frontier.
Quite true.

But my responses were geared towards what I perceive Annie Metal's definition of "progressive" to be based on her last appearance in this forum. Unless she's grown up quite a bit, she won't last long in Alaska (and has no real intention of moving here anymore than she was interested in moving to the other locations on other parts of the board that she flamed).

A search of her posts can show you some of what her true colors really are, but then, during her last rampage here her more nasty posts were deleted before she was given a time out.

It's been so long that I didn't even recognize her user nick. She was so insulting to anyone on this forum who didn't parrot back her green party platitudes that even I couldn't defend her anymore.

You can see some of the childishness here:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/alask...ot-them-7.html

But as I said before, most of her snarlings were deleted.
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Old 04-12-2011, 04:59 PM
 
Location: The Woods
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Quite true.

But my responses were geared towards what I perceive Annie Metal's definition of "progressive" to be based on her last appearance in this forum. Unless she's grown up quite a bit, she won't last long in Alaska (and has no real intention of moving here anymore than she was interested in moving to the other locations on other parts of the board that she flamed).

A search of her posts can show you some of what her true colors really are, but then, during her last rampage here her more nasty posts were deleted before she was given a time out.

It's been so long that I didn't even recognize her user nick. She was so insulting to anyone on this forum who didn't parrot back her green party platitudes that even I couldn't defend her anymore.

You can see some of the childishness here:

http://www.city-data.com/forum/alask...ot-them-7.html

But as I said before, most of her snarlings were deleted.
She posted the same thread in the Vermont forum too...she reads like a troll to me.
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Old 04-12-2011, 05:08 PM
 
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She doesn't appear a troll to me, maybe she is searching for someplace to go, that is not filled with too many conservatives. Have you thought of that?
Yes, I've thought of that. But once more time, my responses are based on past experience with this poster.

She probably would "read like a troll" to you if the things that she posted here back in '08 had not been deleted.
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