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Old 02-09-2012, 10:16 AM
 
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1. I just saw Ed Ved mentioned in here, so I had to proclaim my love for his solo stuff and PJ.

2. Chris McCandless doesn't deserve the hate. Sure, he made mistakes while being adventuresome, but it was his life and he paid for those mistakes. The same thing happens to us, his just happened on a grander scale.
No one "hates" the Kid. Honestly, he was a dumb kid that got in over his head and paid the ultimate price for it.

What most of us "hate" is the romanticizing of his folly.

It gives other unprepared wishful thinkers the notion that this is a good idea. That usually results in some of us on here spending some time out in that self same wilderness bailing out their idealistic backsides. At great cost and danger to those rescuers.

That's the problem.
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Old 02-09-2012, 11:13 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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1. I just saw Ed Ved mentioned in here, so I had to proclaim my love for his solo stuff and PJ.

2. Chris McCandless doesn't deserve the hate. Sure, he made mistakes while being adventuresome, but it was his life and he paid for those mistakes. The same thing happens to us, his just happened on a grander scale.
The only thing that happened was Hollyweird blowing the story up and making a buck off of it.

So their was nothing at all grand about his life or death. Nothing.
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Old 02-09-2012, 01:03 PM
 
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Bus 142 is every bit as historic as the Rosa Parks' Bus, the Partridge Family Bus, the Freedom Riders' Buses, and the Magic School Bus.

It should be airlifted out of the wilderness and placed inside the Anchorage Airport so all visitors can get a glimpse of the true Alaskan spirit.
The kid committed suicide. I doubt true Alaskans with their dogged survivalist spirit would appreciate that. I believe it should be left where it is as a symbol of not what to do. IMHO.
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Old 02-09-2012, 03:08 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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No one "hates" the Kid. Honestly, he was a dumb kid that got in over his head and paid the ultimate price for it.

What most of us "hate" is the romanticizing of his folly.

It gives other unprepared wishful thinkers the notion that this is a good idea. That usually results in some of us on here spending some time out in that self same wilderness bailing out their idealistic backsides. At great cost and danger to those rescuers.

That's the problem.
Even though I am less harsh on the kid, dying alone as a bag of bones, realizing his whole quest boiled down to the understanding that we really do need caring people in our lives, is not romantic. It was very sad for him and his family. I am glad my youthful whims didn't kill me.
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Old 02-09-2012, 04:10 PM
 
Location: Pensacola, Florida
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Interesting thread. I came across Chris' story when I was researching Slab City, CA on here recently. I haven't seen the movie or documentary yet, but isn't this story about more than him dying at this bus?

That said, and back to the topic. I find this bus a very cool thing even aside from Chris' time there. The Stampede Road and such. Alaska is so vast and untamed.

This page from the producer of the documentary clears up some of the misinformation in the book and film.

http://www.terraincognitafilms.com/w...l_debunked.htm


I find the YouTube videos of the inside of the bus cool.


The trip to the bus on Stampede Trail - September, 2009 - #1 - YouTube

"Into the Wild" Magic Bus - YouTube

Hiking The Stampede Trail - YouTube

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Old 02-09-2012, 05:07 PM
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The kid committed suicide. I doubt true Alaskans with their dogged survivalist spirit would appreciate that. I believe it should be left where it is as a symbol of not what to do. IMHO.

I second that- it is a lesson of what not to do.
I hate how the book & Hollywood glorified this story.
Disgusting
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:20 PM
 
Location: United States
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Sadly he is a fine example of what not to do! But mostly he is a statistic of those that were clueless of what they got themselves into.

And since History repeats itself, he wasn't the first and clearly won't be the last!
just as people who never take risks or venture off lay in hospital beds and die a slow death from cancer or old age. At least he had a mind to do what he wanted. I'm not calling him a hero, but he did what he wanted. He may have died doing it but he won't spend his life a slave either.
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Old 02-09-2012, 05:49 PM
 
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j He may have died doing it but he won't spend his life a slave either.
Many of us do what we want. We don't live like slaves. No sense in killing yourself over it.....
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Old 02-09-2012, 08:43 PM
 
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just as people who never take risks or venture off lay in hospital beds and die a slow death from cancer or old age. At least he had a mind to do what he wanted. I'm not calling him a hero, but he did what he wanted. He may have died doing it but he won't spend his life a slave either.
It really isn't an either/or type of thing. Plenty of people venture off, take risks, whatever. They don't all starve in buses.
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Old 02-10-2012, 02:38 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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just as people who never take risks or venture off lay in hospital beds and die a slow death from cancer or old age. At least he had a mind to do what he wanted. I'm not calling him a hero, but he did what he wanted. He may have died doing it but he won't spend his life a slave either.
Well, how are you planning your demise then? Are you waiting for your break from your parents basement?

If you were true to your beliefs, you'd be out doing your own adventure! So far people are envious of McCandless that only succeeded in breaking his parents heart.

Yet we keep hearing all of you that think doing stupid stuff as noble. He was so arrogant that he had the World by the short hairs, when in reality, he had his thumb stuck up his A$$! Sadly he paid for it with his life.

If you want an adventure, come up here and try to keep up with me when I head out to my cabin which is just North of the "Magic Bus", been all over there during the last couple decades, it's neat, but it's my home and I really love it when people want to come see it, but I get so disgusted by those that think they know it all but in reality know nothing about what they are doing.

Just sad that People relate stupid to knowing how to survive!
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