Into the Wild... Well sorta, McCandless followed a broken trail (Metlakatla: live, safe)

[wildchild_to]

Originally Posted by Harrier

Good luck out there. you will need it.

No such thing of luck in that situation it's all skill, if Chris had some skill he would still be here today, not a 67lb frozen still. I may be cold hearted "no pun intended" but it is the truth.

Saying you are so on top of this story, I could use a guide to show me the way, so I do not windup like McCandless. If you would like to take a break from the 80 deg weather, that is.

[starlite9]

This is from the show "an idiot abroad", but it is funny, but shows you guys that have no idea of what deep snow is like to travel through. In 1992, we had almost 12 feet of snowfall, in this area. Had Chris just walked in without snowshoes he would have been in deeper snow than these guys are in. His only option was to follow the snowmachine trail the guys going out to their cabins and running traplines.

The reason I point this out, is because the book and movie make the claim he wandered through the wilderness, if he did, it would be a few hundred yards a day at best and he would have been exhausted. The snowmachine trail goes right by the bus down the orginal roadbed to the mines. Without snowshoes, skis or a snowmachine he simply couldn't have done any traveling as claimed.

Enjoy the video!


An Idiot Abroad 2 - Karl struggles with deep snow - YouTube

[sholomar]

the hate is as silly as putting him on a pedestal. People are always worried so much about what others do. If someone wants to trek out into the Alaskan wilderness unprepared, more power to them. It's none of my business, but some people just have this need to make everyone else's business their own. Whatever.

[Harrier]

The entire point of this thread is faulty. McCandless followed a broken trail? This is not exactly earth shattering news. No one seriously thinks he went out and made a trail to the bus. It is well known that the Stampede Trail was established. Chris himself was under no illusions that he was breaking a new trail. So what is the point of creating a thread to say the trail was broken? Ah yes - another oppurtunity to bash McCandless - by hinting that a blatant falsehood is actually true.

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by Harrier

The entire point of this thread is faulty. McCandless followed a broken trail? This is not exactly earth shattering news. No one seriously thinks he went out and made a trail to the bus. It is well known that the Stampede Trail was established. Chris himself was under no illusions that he was breaking a new trail. So what is the point of creating a thread to say the trail was broken? Ah yes - another oppurtunity to bash McCandless - by hinting that a blatant falsehood is actually true.

No, it was Hollywood that made it look as if he was exploring into the wilderness on his own. And people never give it a second thought for its accuracy.

[Harrier]

Originally Posted by starlite9

No, it was Hollywood that made it look as if he was exploring into the wilderness on his own. And people never give it a second thought for its accuracy.

You must have watched another movie. The film I viewed clearly shows the Stampede Trail sign, Galien driving on the road, and Chris walking on it to the bus. The movie portrays this just as the book does. You have set up a straw man argument so you can tear it down. Chris knew he was travelling on an established road. The entire purpose of this thread is to plant a seed in the mind of uninformed people that Chris thought he was exploring untamed wilderness, so you can continue to bash him. Pathetic.

[believe007]

Originally Posted by warptman

Lord: please save me from McCandless' idiot followers. Amen.

I just thought this bears repeating......

[Gungnir]

Originally Posted by stockwiz

the hate is as silly as putting him on a pedestal. People are always worried so much about what others do. If someone wants to trek out into the Alaskan wilderness unprepared, more power to them. It's none of my business, but some people just have this need to make everyone else's business their own. Whatever.

Actually that's not strictly true.

If someone unprepared tears up my trail so it's impassable, is that none of my business?

If someone unprepared sets alight to the forest and burns down the homes of 20 people living here, is that none of their business?

If someone unprepared shoots and injures a bear that they've attracted in their own ignorance, that then comes by your place and almost mauls your 5 year old, is that none of your business?

If someone shoots your house when they are hunting on your land without your permission, because they didn't check the public lands maps, is that none of your business?

While I'm all for letting people do what they want to do when it has no risk attached to me, I'm certainly very concerned when people come out here, trying to be Davy Crockett, and put me, my family, and my property at risk by their own ignorance.

[starlite9]

Originally Posted by Harrier

You must have watched another movie. The film I viewed clearly shows the Stampede Trail sign, Galien driving on the road, and Chris walking on it to the bus. The movie portrays this just as the book does. You have set up a straw man argument so you can tear it down. Chris knew he was travelling on an established road. The entire purpose of this thread is to plant a seed in the mind of uninformed people that Chris thought he was exploring untamed wilderness, so you can continue to bash him. Pathetic.

Big differance between the Stampede road you can drive to the end of and the Stampede trail that goes beyond. The book and movie didn't make the differance between the two. He was shown wandering all around and came accross the bus from down on the river, when in reality he just walked up to the bus from the snowmachine trail, not the river... Besides, the snow was too deep that year to be down on.

There is no romance here, he just walked down an established trail and came to the bus. Kinda like walking down a funnel he wasn't drawn to the bus, it was a trail side attraction for years.

[NomadicBear]

I'm not taking any sides as I have no horse in this race, but it sure appears as if starlite9 is the one obsessed with McCandless. I read this forum much more than I post, and I cannot recall anyone who spends more time talking about him.