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Unread 04-28-2012, 07:58 PM
 
Location: 112 Ocean Avenue
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Ted was charged with violating the Lacey Act Ted Nugent Illegally Killed Bear in Alaska for His Reality Show | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/24/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-celebrityjustice-idUS160390096520120424 - broken link) which is over 100 years old. So how he can claim the judge never heard of such a law and that he's the first to be charged under this bizarre regulation is beyond me.

 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:02 PM
 
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Maybe he thought he was untouchable, like Alaska is benefitting from him coming up here. He's been hunting up here for a very long time, I remember reading about it in the 80's.
Sounds like he may be looking to buy some land in SE AK, he owns a good deal of many states.
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:04 PM
 
Location: POW
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Ted was charged with violating the Lacey Act Ted Nugent Illegally Killed Bear in Alaska for His Reality Show | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/24/tagblogsfindlawcom2012-celebrityjustice-idUS160390096520120424 - broken link) which is over 100 years old. So how he can claim the judge never heard of such a law and that he's the first to be charged under this bizarre regulation is beyond me.
RJ, does it say anywhere who the judge was?
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:06 PM
 
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RJ, does it say anywhere who the judge was?
Rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent pleads guilty in illegal Alaska bear kill - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/rocker-ted-nugent-to-expected-to-enter-planned-guilty-plea-in-illegal-alaska-hunting-case/2012/04/24/gIQAjRtmdT_story.html - broken link)
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:09 PM
 
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Ted has spoken out about his politics, so of course he is linked that way.
So is Barbra Streisand, Michael Moore, Rosie O’Donnell, you don't hear no one bashing them on here.
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:10 PM
 
Location: POW
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So is Barbra Streisand, Michael Moore, Rosie O’Donnell, you don't hear no one bashing them on here.
You'd hear plenty about it here if they came to SE and wounded a bear.
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:14 PM
 
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RJ, does it say anywhere who the judge was?
U.S. District Court Magistrate Judge Michael Thompson
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:18 PM
 
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You'd hear plenty about it here if they came to SE and wounded a bear.
What gets me on this whole thing is. They had top end video equipment and you think they would of seen, the possible hit of the bear and then go check for it. I am still trying to hunt down a tape, I don't know if it is for sale or just on TV.
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:21 PM
 
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Rocker and gun rights advocate Ted Nugent pleads guilty in illegal Alaska bear kill - The Washington Post (http://www.washingtonpost.com/national/energy-environment/rocker-ted-nugent-to-expected-to-enter-planned-guilty-plea-in-illegal-alaska-hunting-case/2012/04/24/gIQAjRtmdT_story.html - broken link)
Thanks, RJ. I think that Mr. Thompson was wrong when he said it's not a widely known law, and he failed to address how the guides, at least, should have known the law even if Nugent didn't. Bear guides don't come cheap, and they've got a responsibility to their clients that clearly wasn't met here. I suspect that they knew and just let it pass.

It's rather silly that some keep trying to make it seem as if Nugent simply missed. The animal was wounded; again, there was blood on the scene.

Thanks, CC, for the links to various hunting forums where people who know something about hunting in AK are discussing the issue. It rather negates the blaring that millions of people on hunting forums all over are going to somehow effect change in hunting regs.

I would hate to see even one square inch of the Tongass pander to Outside interests to the extent that the safety of the citizens would be compromised. And I'm glad that AK is still a place where where so-called celebrities have no special rights whatsoever.
 
Unread 04-28-2012, 08:26 PM
 
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What gets me on this whole thing is. They had top end video equipment and you think they would of seen, the possible hit of the bear and then go check for it. I am still trying to hunt down a tape, I don't know if it is for sale or just on TV.
Ross admitted that there was blood on the ground where the bear was struck. They did check for it, they saw it, and they continued hunting. I think it's a case of a people believing that they are above the law and thinking that because the small island in question in uninhabited, that it was okay to leave a wounded bear.

I'd have a lot more respect for Nugent if he'd just admit it stop whining.
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