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Old 08-06-2012, 03:12 AM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Pebble isn't even a sure deal. The anti's should just back away and let the permitting process run it's course. In due time you could possibly see one of the Pebble partners pull out and the whole thing will be backtracked. Just look at what is going on with Donlin. It sure sounded like it was going to happen and then, BAM! The big dog pulled out. Happens all the time in the mining industry.

Donlin Gold says nothing’s changed
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Old 08-06-2012, 03:24 AM
 
Location: Wasilla, Alaska
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Pebble isn't even a sure deal. The anti's should just back away and let the permitting process run it's course. In due time you could possibly see one of the Pebble partners pull out and the whole thing will be backtracked. Just look at what is going on with Donlin. It sure sounded like it was going to happen and then, BAM! The big dog pulled out. Happens all the time in the mining industry.

Donlin Gold says nothing’s changed
I agree. One thing I will be interested in reading, whenever it is submitted, is the Contingency Plan the State of Alaska, Department of Environmental Conservation, Spill Prevention & Response Division, Industry Preparedness Program will require. They also determine the financial responsibility of the various parties involved.

Division of Spill Prevention and Response
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Old 08-08-2012, 01:52 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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I say let them build it, but only if 75% of the profits go into the PFD fund.
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Old 08-08-2012, 11:22 PM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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I say let them build it, but only if 75% of the profits go into the PFD fund.
Well if the oil production on the North Slope keeps dropping, the pipeline is getting to the point to where it may shut down in the next few years, and at that point there won't be any PFD's at all....
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:13 AM
 
Location: Anchorage
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Right, so lets get our PFDs from Pebble instead. Seriously, make em give up like 50% of the profit right into PFDs.
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Old 08-09-2012, 08:26 AM
 
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Have there been any studies on how much they could pay and still have it be worth their while? The terms need to make sense for both the mining company and the state.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:15 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Right, so lets get our PFDs from Pebble instead. Seriously, make em give up like 50% of the profit right into PFDs.
You know, before they started building the pipeline from Prudhoe Bay to Valdez, it was the same type of people that claimed the world was going to end and the caribou were going to be wiped out, blah, blah and blah... Well none of that happened, the State got a big windfall and those that claimed all the massive damage are now the biggest supporters of the PFD. They all are on the list for you to "Click" and donate to their causes on the PFD application! Personally I wish they would end it. Too any people move to Alaska thinking they are going to make big bucks off it, and then are on public support since they didn't come to Alaska to really work. Coming to Alaska should be about "Coming to Alaska" and starting a new life, not being a parasite.

As for the Bristol Bay region, about 80% in the region are on public assistance of one kind or another, jobs are a flash in the pan and then nothing with the fishing industry for a few months at best. Then most of those people head back to the lower 48 with thier money. Even the Palin's don't live there, they fish and head back to Wasilla.

Pebble Mine won't distroy anything, but the tree Huggers are using the same lying and misleading tactics they did in the late 1960's and early 1970's to stop the pipeline, which all proved false in the long run.
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Old 08-09-2012, 10:20 AM
 
Location: Interior alaska
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Have there been any studies on how much they could pay and still have it be worth their while? The terms need to make sense for both the mining company and the state.
As with the other big production mines currently in operation in Alaska, they all pay above average wages, Pebble Mine would be no different, it would be year round work for many people in the region, and much of that money would spin off into the local economies as well.

People having work and making an income would go far to combat alcohol and abusive conditions that are associated with boredom and poverty.
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:19 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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They say the minerals in that mine could be worth 200billion to 400 billion. Fine. Half of that goes to the PFD fund. Now, there are about 650,000 of us. How much do we each get? And I'm not talking about just a few hundred people with jobs at the mine...I mean how much do we ALL get?? $5000 a year? $10,000 a year? Minimum, right?
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Old 08-09-2012, 05:21 PM
 
Location: Anchorage
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NOT!!! We'll never see a dime. In fact Parnell will find some sort of a way to give them a tax CUT, lol. Hey, I'm sure they need it. So NO to the Pebble Mine.
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