Halibut cops (unemployment, population, work) - Alaska (AK) - Page 3 - City-Data Forum

dcbrewmeister · 12-02-2012, 06:55 AM

LOL - on the other thread " What can you do for Anchorage" it was suggested - "more police"... now you're getting "more police" and you don't want them. People want a way to stop the law breakers, but very seldom like the method...

Over-fishing and over-hunting kill fish and game nearly to the point of extinction, but yet people keep doing it due to money...

As far as health care - I take 1 pill that is $45 each / daily... Can't get "outside" coverage due to "pre-existing" condition rules.

The only way I can get coverage is "new employee" part of coverage from a job - if offered... The only "saving" grace I have since "health reform" is I can get medicare - for $99 a month... But I would have to pay the "first months" supply to meet the deductible of the plan... about $1800.

But I'm not sitting on welfare and have a job with health insurance.

The real problem IS NOT the "lazy" people sitting on welfare, but the welfare program itself allowing them to just sit there... The entire program needs to be rebuilt. Time limits put in place, and NO MORE PAYING FOR "EXTRA" CHILDREN!!! they all seem to "have" while on welfare... If you can F * * K, you can work.

jdhpa · 12-02-2012, 08:14 AM

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Originally Posted by dcbrewmeister

The real problem IS NOT the "lazy" people sitting on welfare, but the welfare program itself allowing them to just sit there... The entire program needs to be rebuilt.

The Works Projects Administration (WPA) from the depression era seems like a good model to reform welfare:

Works Progress Administration - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Metlakatla · 12-02-2012, 09:18 AM

You aren't really getting it, brewmeister. The fed. halibut cops don't do that much to prevent halibut abuse. Their focus is off.

dcbrewmeister · 12-02-2012, 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Metlakatla

You aren't really getting it, brewmeister. The fed. halibut cops don't do that much to prevent halibut abuse. Their focus is off.

When isn't a government's control focus off... but isn't the biggest impact on them the fishing boats?

Metlakatla · 12-02-2012, 10:03 AM

I don't really understand your sentence, but I have a feeling this is a subject you know very little about.

starlite9 · 12-02-2012, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by dcbrewmeister

LOL - on the other thread " What can you do for Anchorage" it was suggested - "more police"... now you're getting "more police" and you don't want them. People want a way to stop the law breakers, but very seldom like the method...

Over-fishing and over-hunting kill fish and game nearly to the point of extinction, but yet people keep doing it due to money...

As far as health care - I take 1 pill that is $45 each / daily... Can't get "outside" coverage due to "pre-existing" condition rules.

The only way I can get coverage is "new employee" part of coverage from a job - if offered... The only "saving" grace I have since "health reform" is I can get medicare - for $99 a month... But I would have to pay the "first months" supply to meet the deductible of the plan... about $1800.

But I'm not sitting on welfare and have a job with health insurance.

The real problem IS NOT the "lazy" people sitting on welfare, but the welfare program itself allowing them to just sit there... The entire program needs to be rebuilt. Time limits put in place, and NO MORE PAYING FOR "EXTRA" CHILDREN!!! they all seem to "have" while on welfare... If you can F * * K, you can work.

It would have been really simple to make the Healthcare simple and bring the costs down.

Limit class action Lawsuits

Allow all insurance companies to operate in all States, currently they have "Territory", there is little competition.

Set a base rate for everyone and preexisting conditions have to be excepted.

Instead we have some people sitting in a glass tower someplace still adding to what should have been a three to four page bill, a two thousand page (and growing daily with no over site) bill that includes 5,000 new IRS agents to insure that all of you are going to get audited and that has nothing to do with making health care better! Rarely when you are audited do you get a refund!

They have totally destroyed healthcare and in five years those that claimed it was going to be so great will realize you have sold your soul for crap! It will be too late to return since what we had is going to be "Cratered!"

I don't mind the welfare program paying for the kids, but since mom and dad are clearly healthy enough to have kids, they should work. Have the welfare programs put the kids into a daycare center and the parents will be free to work, picking up trash along the highway, sweeping sidewalks, painting elderly people's homes and the like. Nope it's not glamorous work, but if your are a no show, then you're a no pay. You would be suprised at how many will find work that pays more, if no work is aviable, they still have an income that isn't designed to put them on easy street, but get by until they can improve themselves.

dcbrewmeister · 12-02-2012, 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by starlite9

I don't mind the welfare program paying for the kids, but since mom and dad are clearly healthy enough to have kids, they should work. Have the welfare programs put the kids into a daycare center and the parents will be free to work, picking up trash along the highway, sweeping sidewalks, painting elderly people's homes and the like. Nope it's not glamorous work, but if your are a no show, then you're a no pay. You would be suprised at how many will find work that pays more, if no work is aviable, they still have an income that isn't designed to put them on easy street, but get by until they can improve themselves.

That will never happen due to the "demeaning" nature of the work... Being on welfare is (supposed) to be considered "demeaning" enough - but it doesn't seem to keep people from riding it out as long as possible...

A lot of things need "revamping", but as long as lobbyist are in control, it will never change to benefit us...

wildchild_to · 12-02-2012, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Metlakatla

I don't really understand your sentence.

Sounds like me typing..

wildchild_to · 12-02-2012, 05:48 PM

The state an feds have "other things" they could be doing.. Like busting illegals coming over the border, dope dealers, local crimes.

naturesdreams · 12-03-2012, 06:11 AM

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Originally Posted by dcbrewmeister

That will never happen due to the "demeaning" nature of the work... Being on welfare is (supposed) to be considered "demeaning" enough - but it doesn't seem to keep people from riding it out as long as possible...

A lot of things need "revamping", but as long as lobbyist are in control, it will never change to benefit us...

It used to be that people didn't talk much about being on Welfare... most felt it was "demeaning".. but I have found the opposite is true anymore... I've heard a lot bragging about how they don't have to deal with the "rat race" and perhaps it is due to 3rd generations in the same families following the same patterns and it has become the only way of life they know (very sad)...

I have no problem giving a hand "Up" to those falling on bad times... but "work for a check" sounds like a great idea to me... I have had to pump gas, clean out toilets through out my life to make enough to put food on my table.... I have no special skills or no one in power to get me a job... I just have the will to work hard at ANY type of job to provide for my needs...

Gosh I know this makes me sound old... but does it seem like the "What's in it for me" population is the majority?...

I'm usually an optimist but maybe it is also the fact I work in claims and see too many people trying to "fraud" the system which hurts ALL the policy holders...

WELL on that note... Happy Monday!