Measuring cost/benefit ratios in Tourism (Fairbanks, Ketchikan: house, college, to live)

[Xa'at]

Hmm... tonight I feel like salmon, fresh off the grill, dripping with lemon and herb butter and served up with a side of sautéed green beans and garlic mashed potatoes.

[GoddessofRandomThoughts]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Would you mind providing some clarification for this sentence?

The crews on the ships are largely Filipino. They make way less than American min. wage.

That's not really a proper sentence so I can't respond to it.

LMGDAO...

or I would be....

if it weren't so freakin' sad.

BP cocktail, anyone?

Sarcasm, ya gotta love it!!
Forgive the poor sentence structure, please.

[Xa'at]

Hmm... Not to be distracting or anything (that was the purpose of my last post) but...

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Perhaps you might want to explain to me, then, how Petersburg, Alaska, has the highest income per capita in the US...yet has refused for years to allow the big ships to infest their community.

Can you tell me where you get this figure from? I'm actually working on an article for wikipedia about income in Alaska and that would be a great fact to have, if I can properly source it. However all my searches have turned up small (probably exclusive) communities in either California or Florida as the top income per capita spot. (with incomes in the $200,000s a year )

[Metlakatla]

If they are so horrible why are they still there?

Well, when you put it that way, I can hardly argue with that logic.

Bush is still Pres so he must not be so bad, eh?

All sarcasm aside...British Petroleum is why they are still here.

I think you maybe simplifying it.

Simplicity is hardly my forte.


I live and know this reality; you've lived in freakin' Anchorage for what, two years?


You know nothing about my home. Nada.

About Petersburg, I have no idea, but you are using it to prove your point, sooo tell me Is it the lack of tourism that helps them or is there something they have or are doing diff

Maybe consider taking an econ 101 class to help you out with this question.

It really isn't such a stretch.


By saying no to the big ships, Petersburg also said no to carpetbaggers et al and to the subsequential ruination of their community.

[Metlakatla]

Can you tell me where you get this figure from? I'm actually working on an article for wikipedia about income in Alaska and that would be a great fact to have, if I can properly source it. However all my searches have turned up small (probably exclusive) communities in either California or Florida as the top income per capita spot. (with incomes in the $200,000s a year )

Yeah, I'll get it to you..though it was several years ago so it might not even be true anymore. Right now I don't have access to my resources because I'm in a hotel in Ketchikan getting ready to go back to POW tomorrow.

[aquariusmom]

Metlakatla you sound like the locals when we lived on Cape Cod.... and Hawaii... and the Poconos. Everybody hates a tourist... until they want to BE one somewhere else.

[ASpilot2be]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

The crews on the ships are largely Filipino. They make way less than American min. wage.

Some good news is that NCL is starting to put US workers in the engine rooms of their Hawaiian ships. Go MEBA

I am really neutral on the cruise ship issue. I see both good and bad points of view.

But what is doing a bit of damage to the local economies in the upper Lynn Canal is the ferry system. For some reason they feel the need that the Fairweather can not go between Haines and Skagway during the summer months. This has dropped a large number of tourists doing the Golden Circle route. But right now Haines is getting a boost do to the good exchange rate for Europeans coming over. Our little town will be filled to the brink with Heli-skiiers this year

[DannyL]

Metla, let this thread go, it's a train wreck waiting to happen to logical folks like you and me who live here ,and attention freaks who post here who bounce between what's correct and fiction.
Let it go girl,,,I have. It's no use here anymore. Our opinion doen'st really count.
Only those going for rep points.....

[Metlakatla]

I've never been to Hawaii..Cape Cod..or the Pocanos....and I would never dream of trying to tell the locals in those places that tourism must be good for their economy et al, the way that a few people who have never even been to the panhandle are spouting off ad nauseum about how tourism must be our saving grace here.

I can certainly sympathize with the feelings of the people in the places that you mention,though. I don't know how many times last summer I saw the trash off the cruise ships walking into people's yards with absolutely no understanding at all that they were intruding on private property. Not to mention them grabbing the spawning salmon out of the creeks and holding them up for photo ops.

And then....the north isn't Hawaii, it isn't Cape Cod, and it certainly isn't the Pocanos.

Thank Heaven for that.

Because those places have pretty much given in to the Disneyland mind set.

Alaska hasn't.

[GoddessofRandomThoughts]

Originally Posted by Metlakatla

Well, when you put it that way, I can hardly argue with that logic.

Bush is still Pres so he must not be so bad, eh?

All sarcasm aside...British Petroleum is why they are still here.

Simplicity is hardly my forte.
I live and know this reality; you've lived in freakin' Anchorage for what, two years?
You know nothing about my home. Nada.
Maybe consider taking an econ 101 class to help you out with this question.

It really isn't such a stretch.
By saying no to the big ships, Petersburg also said no to carpetbaggers et al and to the subsequential ruination of their community.

Metla, I freely admitted that I didn't know the answers and was asking.
Just as I was asking about Petersburg. No sarcasm but an honest question.
They may have the right idea and the answers for others.

So, sorry that questioning what you say is so bothersome.
Darn, I knew I should have paid attention in Econ 101.