How Much To Sacrafice (Valdez: neighborhood, wedding, purchase)

[DannyL]

Originally Posted by 07chevy

I do appologize to any/all I have offended and retract the disrespect I have portrayed to anyone reading these posts. I am not a disrespectful person, I came off the wrong way. Sorry once again.

dammit chevy, if you're gonna do, do it.
being an alaskan isn't about a "move with warranty" (which a lot of these damn threads are about), but about believing in yourself and taking a risk....and doing it.
metla was right...if you can't hang and handle it down there....you definitly ain't gonna make up here.
hint...if you're moving up here "green", bring at least 5 grand "seed money".
you;ll be re-inventing yourself in a way you never thought of.
ok, i'm done. it's cold and i'm getting cranky.....

[Metlakatla]

If you're cold and cranky, you should make yourself a hot buttered rum.

[Xa'at]

<soapbox>
Ack, the whole reinventing yourself thing is getting old. If you make no changes other than scenery, you're going to still be unhappy, albeit unhappy with a lovely snow-capped, alpenglowed mountain backdrop. On the other hand, if you take the opportunity to try to make a change in your life, you will be happy(er). It's not impossible, in fact it's really not that hard. For example, instead of complaining about illegal aliens destroying your country, start thinking of things you can do to better your country, then do them. It's really that simple, and believe it or not you don't have to leave your house, no less move to Alaska, to do it.
In the immortal words of one of those "inspirational" posters that you find tacked up in office buildings and classrooms:
"If you always do what you always did, you'll always get what you always got."
As individuals and members of a greater society, it's our moral duty to continually work to improve ourselves and the world we live in. If you think you have to move to Alaska to do that, then by all means do it. But remember, you still have to work at it once you're there.
</soapbox>

[Rance]

I once got stranded in southern MN for a month with only the clothes on my back, after missing a plane to AK. Within a day I found a lowly painting job, traded my only Ak shirt for two MN football t-shirts to a drunk guy, bathed in a creek, and saved enough for the 700 bucks home a month later. It was in late May going into June so the temps were fine. My suitcase went to Anchorage full of fresh Arkansas strawberries and a dozen roses for my Mom. It took a week to get to use a phone and call her so she could retrieve my suitcase in Anch. By then it was one rotten box of clothes. It was a little rough...but I survived to tell the story today. A person can do most anything if you put your mind to it.

This guy sacrafices his turkeys!
Location: Cooper Landing
Case number: 07-96803
Type: Release Live Game Without Permit
Text: On 11/30/07, Wayne L. Koecher, 62 yoa, of Cooper Landing AK, was
charged by the Alaska Wildlife Troopers for releasing live game in the
State of Alaska without a valid permit. The case originated from a
complaint that a Brown Bear was chasing his Turkey's in the Cooper
Landing Elementary School playground which boarders Koecher's property.
Koecher refused to contain his birds and was issued a summons to appear
in the Seward District Court on 1/8/08.

[User 2]

Originally Posted by 07chevy

User 2. I am not escaping anything, I dont run from anything.

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Originally Posted by 07chevy

I am surrounded by a large part of the country that is being run over by ILLEGALS that I cant seem to do anything about and would like to live in a part of the country that isnt ruined by them yet.

..What makes you think here is any different?

If that's what you're (not running from) what are you going to do when you start seeing illegals behind every bush here?

Gonna be a 'bush rat', and live off by yourself in the woods?

Is that the 'sacrifice' you're talking about?

Why don't you look into why you think there's a problem with what you call 'illegals'?

What government administration coddles the corporations that provide the jobs that attract immigrant labor to this country? Have you voted for them in the past? Will you vote for them again?

We have many corporations here that are benefitting from the lack of enforcement of our laws, and corporations coddled by the present administration. Heck, our Congressional Representative and both our Senators are now, and have been for some time, the focus of current Justice Dept and FBI probes into ongoing corruption scandals.

You think you can't do anything about what you perceive as a problem and yet, the 'sacrifice' you're talking about doesn't seem to be that you would sacrifice your efforts to correct what you see as wrong, you just want to be some mythical otherwhere.

Me, I'm not anxious to extend a welcome to more people who will just come here and vote for the same kind of people they vote for somewhere else.

How does that contribute to what Alaska needs?

Seems to me, Alaska is being asked to sacrifice to accomodate people who didn't sacrifice wherever they were when they thought here would be a better place to be.

Me, I don't want this place to become like where you're leaving from.

We don't care how they do it elsewhere, ......or at least that's how it was here before we became over-run by people who got here and decided they wanted it to be just like what they left behind.

That's too much for me to want to 'sacrifice' just to accomodate another refugee from somewhere they didn't do it right when they had the chance.

We have people who come here from all parts of the world, I'm going to judge them as individuals.

I'm not going to go around calling every stranger an illegal just because they look differently than someone else.

And if I were to look for someone to blame for an 'illegal' being here, I wouldn't blame them, I'd be angry at who was behind creating policies which allows corporations to unjustly profit by their being here. The importation of immigrant labor is driven by government policy, not the other way around.

I frankly don't care if anyone got here legally or illegally, if they are decent hard working productive members of the community, they're more deserving of my welcome than most of the 'legals' that have shown up on our door.

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[Glitch]

Originally Posted by DannyL

metla was right...if you can't hang and handle it down there....you definitly ain't gonna make up here.

Not necessarily true. Events outside of one's control can change, forcing one to either change with those events or leave. For example, in 1989 Los Angeles County, California, decided to ban a wide variety of firearms without putting a "grandfather" clause in place. Meaning, if you owned one of the weapons on their ban list you were automatically a criminal, even if you legally purchased the weapon(s) before the law was put into effect. So now you have a choice: 1) Either get rid of those "illegal" weapons; or 2) leave. It has nothing to do with one's ability to "hang and handle it".

In my case, I chose to find some place that actually respects my constitutionally protected rights, like Alaska, rather than submit to a government that has absolutely no respect for my rights.

[warptman]

Ok, Glitch for State house:P

[User 2]

Originally Posted by Glitch

I chose to find some place that actually respects my constitutionally protected rights, like Alaska, rather than submit to a government that has absolutely no respect for my rights.

I always hear the gun rights people tell me they have to have that gun to protect their rights.

Didn't seem to play out that way, we've steadily been losing our rights and I don't see any of these freedom fighters using those guns for what they say they have to have them for.

As your rights are continually being eroded, here and in the lower 48, where are you going next?

[Rance]

Space! The final frontier?

[Glitch]

Originally Posted by User 2

I always hear the gun rights people tell me they have to have that gun to protect their rights.

Didn't seem to play out that way, we've steadily been losing our rights and I don't see any of these freedom fighters using those guns for what they say they have to have them for.

As your rights are continually being eroded, here and in the lower 48, where are you going next?

After I moved to Alaska in 1991 I became a Life Member of the NRA and joined the Alaskan NRA Steering Committee to help get the Alaskan State Constitution amended in 1994. The amendment passed with 77% of the popular vote. So at least as far as our right to keep and bear arms is concerned, Alaskan citizens have only reinforced and reaffirmed those rights, not erode them.

The beauty of the second amendment is that it will not be needed until they try to take it. --- Thomas Jefferson