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Old 04-10-2014, 07:36 PM
 
Location: Seattle, Washington
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Only if you can see Russia from Arizona.
Ah yes, I had forgotten that she left Alaska. Well then perhaps she can sit down there and keep watch on Mexico from her kitchen window.

 
Old 04-11-2014, 10:32 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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What?

Unlike Ukraine, no one is a live from when the territory was Russian.

I'm not Sourdough, but Russian culture in AK is weak.

nothing to be concerned about.
At the expense of all of Alaska, I will not tell you. But here is one small island Spruce (New Valaam) in the Alaskan documentary still Russian and he was never sold.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 11:14 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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Maybe because the Russians have a long history of sending citizens of their own country, as well as captives from other countries, to slave labor camps?
Funny, but that's just come up with these camps Saxons not us. And the U.S. as well use them. Just want to remind you that the United States during World War II landed in the camp all its citizens of Japanese origin. When Alaska was Russian indigenous peoples who were with Russia had more rights and could hold the largest positions. but, when Alaska became America you took them all right. They had no more rights at most dog.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 01:41 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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Just want to remind you that the United States during World War II landed in the camp all its citizens of Japanese origin.
Of whom several dozen died -- a tragic episode in American history, especially considering the fact that many Japanese-Americans fought valiantly for the Allies during World War II.

Meanwhile, during the period 1919-1989, the USSR imprisoned 10-20 million people in the GULag and other prison camps, of whom 1 to 2 million died.

Your attempt to compare the WWII internment of Japanese-Americans -- which almost everyone in the US, except for a few extreme right-wingers, acknowledges as a terrible mistake, and for which the US government has officially apologized -- with the systematic imprisonment, torture, and starvation of generations of Soviet citizens is the worst kind of moral equivalency there is.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 02:54 PM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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Of whom several dozen died -- a tragic episode in American history, especially considering the fact that many Japanese-Americans fought valiantly for the Allies during World War II.

Meanwhile, during the period 1919-1989, the USSR imprisoned 10-20 million people in the GULag and other prison camps, of whom 1 to 2 million died.

Your attempt to compare the WWII internment of Japanese-Americans -- which almost everyone in the US, except for a few extreme right-wingers, acknowledges as a terrible mistake, and for which the US government has officially apologized -- with the systematic imprisonment, torture, and starvation of generations of Soviet citizens is the worst kind of moral equivalency there is.
Gulag was in 1934-1960 were mostly labor camps for "spies, saboteurs, terrorists, Trotskyites, rightists and Mensheviks, SRs, anarchists, nationalists, emigres and other anti-Soviet members of organizations and groups," but you're right, not all were guilty But it was the time before the war and postwar, when we won the war and the revolution ended. (Time of ruin and construction). How about the Holodomor in the United States that was created artificially? (In the 30s, in America died from starvation around 5 million citizens)We will not remember the murders of millions of Indians.
 
Old 04-11-2014, 03:43 PM
 
Location: San Francisco
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the Holodomor in the United States that was created artificially? (In the 30s, in America died from starvation around 5 million citizens)
That is a complete fabrication by (no surprise) a Russian researcher. US death rates remained stable throughout the 1930s.

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Old 04-11-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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That is a complete fabrication by (no surprise) a Russian researcher. US death rates remained stable throughout the 1930s.
You probably do not know his story. So when for Russia is a reality . when the United States is a fiction ? How do you like to use double standards and hypocrisy.During the Great Depression , which raged in the U.S. in the 30s in America died from starvation about five million citizens. However, many of them died due to the fault of the U.S. government .Among the millions of underprivileged people raging hunger, disease , high mortality . About 5 million farmers and their families have lost their land and property , that is dispossessed nowhere.In fact, what happened to America's farmers , you can put on a par with the dispossession of the USSR. The fact that the land , crops and livestock , many farmers were pledged with banks. And those , in turn, belonged to large argon oligarchic structures, which were taken from the ruined peasants property for debt. Under millstone credit system then hit almost every sixth farmer .Agricultural business lobby was not interested in that there was a lot of food : then it would become available to impoverished Americans. Therefore, the authorities and the business did well " in the market " : plowed about 10 million hectares of land with crops and destroyed more than 6.5 million pigs. Naturally, this angered ordinary Americans who organized " hunger marches ". Government left them only one choice - "public works" .IT WAS GENOCIDE AMERICANS their own government .


Can be any doubt , but it is better to take official data statvedomstva U.S. , which I enjoyed. And they are stunning . In the 30 years in the U.S. the actual availability of citizens transpired only in the census of the population and they were held in 1930 , 1940 and 1950 . So, these data reveal a sharp shortage census of the U.S. population . And it is obvious that these statistical data were fitted to the physical inventory at the population census years , that is forged. It looks like this : the birth rate to the top in 1931 allegedly halved and so remains at the level of ten years. And in 1941 increases. And also doubled. In demography this does not happen ! If it was only in the fertility decline , then we would have a failure only persons born in the 30s . However, there is a failure and Americans born in the 20s . But not " born" they could not - they have lived ! Consequently, they could only die in the 30s .Total , based on U.S. statistics , the U.S. population by 1940 had increased to almost 141.856 million. In fact, we see the figure of 131.409 million. 3 million of them are explainable migration. More about 2.5 million loss being to reduce fertility ( here still need to find out the share of unrecorded infant mortality ) . And about 5 million have gone missing in the American statistics. And no one has explained where they go .
 
Old 04-11-2014, 10:48 PM
 
Location: NP
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I better go get more tinfoil.
 
Old 04-12-2014, 08:58 AM
 
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... ...So when for Russia is a reality . when the United States is a fiction ? How do you like to use double standards and hypocrisy... ...
This person does not know how to use English words in a coherent sentence. It's time to stop posting and go back and get an education.
 
Old 04-12-2014, 09:30 AM
 
Location: State Fire and Ice
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This person does not know how to use English words in a coherent sentence. It's time to stop posting and go back and get an education.
Yes you are right I have only school knowledge. I have studied other languages. But it does not bother me to understand what is at stake. I'm sorry that you do not understand me!
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